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 Posted: Mon Aug 16th, 2021 04:41 pm
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Superstar wrote: Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: Meltzer is reporting that Flair signing with AEW is a done deal, it’s just a matter of when he can legally appear on their TV. There’s some confusion over when and if he has a non-compete, but as soon as it’s straightened out he’ll be there. Although they can’t say it, through Andrade he was essentially signed before he even asked for his WWE release. 

Hulk Hogan is probably asking everyone he knows for Tony Khan's number right now, n*****.
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At what point does the WWE start to publicly (and possibly privately) take AEW seriously?

At what point do we start hearing about AEW workers not liking the lack of upward mobility due to how loaded the roster is getting?

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tamalie wrote: At what point does the WWE start to publicly (and possibly privately) take AEW seriously?

At what point do we start hearing about AEW workers not liking the lack of upward mobility due to how loaded the roster is getting?
Have we even heard of a single wrestler that's not happy in AEW?  Have we heard of any possibly wanting to go back to WWE?  Somebody interviewed Moxley and he said something to the effect of that in his mind he would never disqualify WWE from consideration as a place to work.  So automatically, the non journalists on the internet started saying that "Moxley wants out and will go back to WWE when his contract is over".  Which is bullshit.  It was a direct question with an honest answer.  But so far I've not heard of anybody bitching about how they are being treated.  I know that at the end of the day Tony Khan is the boss, but I get the feeling that he truly cares about his roster, listens to their concerns, and tries to work towards a solution where everybody is happy and the wrestlers feel like they have input on their careers.  And if the wrestlers make a fair wage, they won't bolt to work in the WWE machine unless they were guaranteed a better job.  And we all know that WWE doesn't guarantee anything.



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Superstar wrote: tamalie wrote: At what point does the WWE start to publicly (and possibly privately) take AEW seriously?

At what point do we start hearing about AEW workers not liking the lack of upward mobility due to how loaded the roster is getting?
Have we even heard of a single wrestler that's not happy in AEW?  Have we heard of any possibly wanting to go back to WWE?  Somebody interviewed Moxley and he said something to the effect of that in his mind he would never disqualify WWE from consideration as a place to work.  So automatically, the non journalists on the internet started saying that "Moxley wants out and will go back to WWE when his contract is over".  Which is bullshit.  It was a direct question with an honest answer.  But so far I've not heard of anybody bitching about how they are being treated.  I know that at the end of the day Tony Khan is the boss, but I get the feeling that he truly cares about his roster, listens to their concerns, and tries to work towards a solution where everybody is happy and the wrestlers feel like they have input on their careers.  And if the wrestlers make a fair wage, they won't bolt to work in the WWE machine unless they were guaranteed a better job.  And we all know that WWE doesn't guarantee anything.

Joey Janela is the only one, and he’ll never go to WWE. He does have an indy following though and claimed he was making money on his own. So he was very unhappy that he’s been mostly a job guy or Dark talent since signing with AEW, and he no-showed a taping once in protest. They must’ve straightened it out because he’s still being used in the same capacity and I haven’t heard him bitch in quite a few months. This will no doubt happen again one day, it’s inevitable in any company. Not everyone can get pushed. 



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Exclusive backstage footage of Fuego del Sol signing his actual contract and talking about being surprised when Sammy came out.

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Colt Cabana was interviewed about being an agent. He said all they do is help the guys get everything they want into a match with the only constraint being the length of the match. He's never told anyone they can't or shouldn't do anything, and the most important part of his job is going over the match afterwards and seeing what worked and what didn't from the audience perspective. I think he only works on Dark and the top guys probably don't use agents. Seems a world away from WWE where I assume the agents spend most of their time telling guys what they can't do and that the finish will be a roll-up.



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tamalie wrote: At what point does the WWE start to publicly (and possibly privately) take AEW seriously?

At what point do we start hearing about AEW workers not liking the lack of upward mobility due to how loaded the roster is getting?


There's two things to think about here. The first is that AEW wrestlers are allowed to work  outside of AEW. On any given weekend, you'll find AEW wrestlers working for many different promotions, so they always have the chance to get some buzz about them outside of AEW, which would likely be noticed and probably rewarded.

The second is that the AEW roster isn't as big as you think it is. Even on Dynamite, they use unsigned wrestlers every week. On this week's show we saw Mike Sydal, Daniel Garcia, 3.0, Wheeler Yuta and the Good Brothers. None of them are "All Elite."



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Kriss wrote: tamalie wrote: At what point does the WWE start to publicly (and possibly privately) take AEW seriously?

At what point do we start hearing about AEW workers not liking the lack of upward mobility due to how loaded the roster is getting?


There's two things to think about here. The first is that AEW wrestlers are allowed to work  outside of AEW. On any given weekend, you'll find AEW wrestlers working for many different promotions, so they always have the chance to get some buzz about them outside of AEW, which would likely be noticed and probably rewarded.

The second is that the AEW roster isn't as big as you think it is. Even on Dynamite, they use unsigned wrestlers every week. On this week's show we saw Mike Sydal, Daniel Garcia, 3.0, Wheeler Yuta and the Good Brothers. None of them are "All Elite."

But Wheeler Yuta is a World champion according to Pro Wrestling Illustrated, so they better lock him up to a multi-million dollar contract ASAP. 

3.0 will surely be signed. They have a ton of friends there, and the chubby one is a good promo. The Good Brothers would already be under contract if not for that pesky Impact contract that barely gets in the way of them hanging out with their friends. Daniel Garcia is the most generic guy with the most generic name that if he was re-cast by any other indy guy next week, no one would notice. 



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The debut episode of Rampage drew 730,000 fans, which is pretty crazy for a Friday night at 10pm.



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srossi wrote: The debut episode of Rampage drew 730,000 fans, which is pretty crazy for a Friday night at 10pm.I know it’s an unfair comparison because it ran from 8-10, but what kind of audience did Smackdown draw on Fridays?  Also taking into account that WWE was drawing double the overall ratings back then.



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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: The debut episode of Rampage drew 730,000 fans, which is pretty crazy for a Friday night at 10pm.I know it’s an unfair comparison because it ran from 8-10, but what kind of audience did Smackdown draw on Fridays?  Also taking into account that WWE was drawing double the overall ratings back then.
Smackdown drew 2 million. Their first episode on FOX did 4 million, so they lost half their audience in 2 years. 

And obviously the comparison isn’t just 8-10 vs 10-11, but also network vs cable so I’d say this is pretty damn good. 



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I'm about an hour behind watching 'Dynamite' tonight. I will tell you as much as I think the booking is really rotten IMO it's hard not to "mark out" for some of what they do.

I know Sting shouldn't be taking bumps, blah, blah, blah, but that tag with him and "Darbs" tonight was pretty F'in cool.

One thing I have to give Tony Khan and company,even though he still has a lot to learn about the intricacies of the business, he does bring the excitement. Too bad the WWE seems to have lost "it" when it comes to exciting television.

I will say having the crowds back has got me interested even more than I was pre-covid. I am watching NXT now to and I am really looking forward to this 'Takeover' coming up. The Joe and Kross buildup is what got me into watching NXT as I can't say I ever really paid attention to them and only became invested when Joe was brought back and re-debuted.

The Sammy-Spears match just ended. They worked hard, but the multiple false finish they did...and AEW does, is just too much. It's just becoming a standard part of their matches (mostly main events)in that it's just as normal as the lock up to begin matches.

Blah.. sorry I had a couple beers after supper. Two beers nowadays and I'm half lit lol.

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Lol at Dan Lambert doing a quasi Jim Cornette shtick, but not getting too deep into some of Jim's legit (agree or not) issues with AEW.


Actually Lambert is really just using typical "safe" cheap heat material,like AEW fans are D&D nerds, cancel culture, UFC guys tougher than the AEW roster, etc. Too bad they wouldn't let him get some real heat and just rip off Corny's rants word for word.

The more I think about it, Lambert is more quasi Vince Russo than Jim Cornette.

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I love the booking of MJF so much. They shouldn’t have him lose for a year or two. The booking with him and Jericho tonight was the perfect way to get everyone over while still having a clean finish.



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