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 Posted: Fri Jun 24th, 2022 03:11 am
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I thought Silas Young looked good last night also


This 'Forbidden Door' show I have a feeling is going to bomb. I'm a 'new' (casual)  AEW fan and I can't tell you 'what I'm looking forward to'

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 Posted: Fri Jun 24th, 2022 04:39 am
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beejmi wrote: I thought Silas Young looked good last night also


This 'Forbidden Door' show I have a feeling is going to bomb. I'm a 'new' (casual)  AEW fan and I can't tell you 'what I'm looking forward to'

Oh yeah it won’t do much of anything as far as numbers go on PPV.  Most anyone in the US who is interested is already going to Chicago to see the show live. I’m sure it’ll be a great show full of great matches, but AEW has shit that bed promoting this show. 



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 Posted: Fri Jun 24th, 2022 05:53 am
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And shit on their own show in the process with the most scattershot booking I think I've ever seen over the past 3-4 weeks.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 24th, 2022 05:55 am
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srossi wrote: Another injury just announced as now L.A. dojo student Clark Connors will replace Tomohiro Ishii at Forbidden Door. That’s not exactly a suitable replacement, but I guess they couldn’t fly anyone into America on 2 days notice.Jesus, they are really getting bad luck with the injuries. Still I doubt it will have any effect on how many people will buy the thing. I'm sure this match is of less interest now though. 

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 Posted: Fri Jun 24th, 2022 07:20 am
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Jim_Irish wrote: srossi wrote: Another injury just announced as now L.A. dojo student Clark Connors will replace Tomohiro Ishii at Forbidden Door. That’s not exactly a suitable replacement, but I guess they couldn’t fly anyone into America on 2 days notice.Jesus, they are really getting bad luck with the injuries. Still I doubt it will have any effect on how many people will buy the thing. I'm sure this match is of less interest now though. 
They should move Suzuki into this match and put someone else in the trios match.



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 Posted: Fri Jun 24th, 2022 12:55 pm
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Regarding Bryan’s replacement, Cesaro or gargano would be cool, but if Yuta is not in the blood and guts match yet, I say him. He’s been HC with his moxley match, he’s the pure champ, and not being gargano or Cesaro would play into “heel entrance Bryan.”

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I probably missed this. I miss more than half of the shows though.


Ok these guys from New Japan are here because ??????

And the day after the show this means ?????

What exactly is 'on the line'?

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 Posted: Fri Jun 24th, 2022 01:16 pm
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'Tony Khan' is the short answer to the above.

There's nothing on the line. It's a supercard. If it was just booked as that I'd watch it. Instead they've spent a month coming up with contrived 'rivalries' involving dozens of Japanese wrestlers that I genuinely couldn't give a fuck about. And on top of that their own top stars are all out action for one reason or another.

The show will presumably mean next to nothing the day after,though they tend to bring in Japanese guys on and off so that will probably continue and there might be one or two issues still to settle after the PPV.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 24th, 2022 02:02 pm
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Last night after Impact, NJPW on AXS aired the Tanahashi vs. Goto and Okada vs. White matches from Dominion that set up Forbidden Door.



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 Posted: Sat Jun 25th, 2022 09:29 pm
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God dammit, now Hiromu Takahashi is off Forbidden Door. He hadn’t traveled yet to the States and now they won’t allow him on the plane because he has a fever (but not Covid). The 8-man match will be changed to a 6-man. And Hiromu is my favorite NJPW talent right now. Cursed show.



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 Posted: Sun Jun 26th, 2022 09:08 am
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He should have gotten vaccinated.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 29th, 2022 08:29 am
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Alan "Five" Angels is leaving AEW, contract not being renewed. The Dark Order is running out of members. -1 needs to get to work recruiting.

Interesting match on Dark last night - Ariya Daivari (music entrance) vs Caleb Konley (already in the ring). Daivari is currently on a trial with WWE as a producer, but this match was okayed with WWE. Vince would absolutely fire someone for this. Daivari was on Raw on May 30, breaking up a brawl. Kaleb with a K from Impact is back to being Caleb with a C. Both guys have had a previous appearance with AEW. The match was pretty boring and not interesting at all. This was like an NXT match where both guys look like they are playing at being wrestlers. Compare with the believability of artists like Eddie Kingston and Minoru Suzuki.

Wheeler Yuta vs Tony Nese for the ROH Pure Title in the main event was a good match. I hate the pure rules, though. Fewer rules make better matches, not more rules.



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Kriss wrote: Alan "Five" Angels is leaving AEW, contract not being renewed. The Dark Order is running out of members. -1 needs to get to work recruiting.


 Good, they are getting closer to my optimal number of Dark Order members :)

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 Posted: Wed Jun 29th, 2022 01:14 pm
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Kriss wrote: Alan "Five" Angels is leaving AEW, contract not being renewed. The Dark Order is running out of members. -1 needs to get to work recruiting.

Interesting match on Dark last night - Ariya Daivari (music entrance) vs Caleb Konley (already in the ring). Daivari is currently on a trial with WWE as a producer, but this match was okayed with WWE. Vince would absolutely fire someone for this. Daivari was on Raw on May 30, breaking up a brawl. Kaleb with a K from Impact is back to being Caleb with a C. Both guys have had a previous appearance with AEW. The match was pretty boring and not interesting at all. This was like an NXT match where both guys look like they are playing at being wrestlers. Compare with the believability of artists like Eddie Kingston and Minoru Suzuki.

Wheeler Yuta vs Tony Nese for the ROH Pure Title in the main event was a good match. I hate the pure rules, though. Fewer rules make better matches, not more rules.

Considering AEW just gave them Jericho, Bryan, and Wight, I’d say AEW is still owed a lot more than Daivari. 



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If there was any doubt over whether AEW care about the mythical casual fan, then that was put to bed last night. That was a hardcore match for hardcore fans. It was a very good match for what it was, but not my cup of tea. Very good to have one team all in red, since it made the action much easier to follow. I think the show as a whole nicely continued the current feuds and I'm stoked that Kingston is in another singles feud now so we can get some more epic promos. I don't think they did nearly enough to showcase the huge crowd, not for the first time. Hiding them all behind the huge cage made that even worse.

The deep roster with a lot of main event talent is certainly paying off now with all the injuries and absences. This didn't seem like a lesser show compared to a SmackDown without Roman Reigns.

There is one positive to all these injuries. Back in the day, and do this day in WWE, people would work hurt and pop pills and keep on going until they were completely broken. Worried that they would lose their spot or Vince would get angry, gods forbid someone asked for paternity leave. Vince wouldn't even let RVD go to Sheik's funeral. Say what you want about Cody's recent performance, now that the dust has settled, I think it's pretty clear that it wasn't worth it. No one on AEW has to do that one last match or big injury angle to write them off TV. So, my middle finger to anyone who complained that the AEW roster was too big. A big thumbs up to my friend, my hero, my benefactor, Tony Khan.



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