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 Posted: Tue Jul 27th, 2021 01:00 pm
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Blazer wroteNo answer here, but definitely keeping the little guy in our thoughts.  I think he’s around the same age as my son based on your previous posts, so I can relate.  Scary stuff.  I’m assuming you had to rush him to the hospital…what were his symptoms?


There really wasn't a "rush to the hospital". I mistakenly assumed that this was just a stomach bug and that he might get an anti-emetic medication and some IV fluids in the ED and then go home. Again, I was very wrong.


The symptoms started with one incident of vomiting on Monday. No fever, no aches/pains, just vomited once. After he vomited, he appeared fine the rest of Monday and seemed perfectly fine on Tuesday. We went to a water park on Tuesday and he seemed fine all that day - no fever, no vomiting, no aches/pains, ate concession stand food with no issue, etc. Went to the beach on Wednesday and he drank a lot of water and Diet Coke while we were there for about 8 hours. In the 8 hours that we were out, I think he urinated about 5-6 times. I assumed that the excessive thirst was because his body was trying to rehydrate due to the vomiting on Monday and the frequent urination was due to him drinking a lot of liquids that day. Other than the frequent drinking/urination, nothing seemed wrong on Wednesday. On Thursday we all just relaxed around the house - again no signs of anything wrong. On Friday, he had several incidents of vomiting but was able to keep water down later in the day/evening. He slept through the night on Friday with no issue. On Saturday morning, the vomiting began again after noon so we took him to the ED where he was found to have a blood glucose of close to 500 (typical range is between 70 and 110) and was diagnosed with DKA. Also found that he had lost approximately 10% of his normal body weight.


Many of the "classic signs" of DKA are described above but had been dismissed by me as something else since I didn't consider Type 1 diabetes to even be a possibility:

1) Vomiting - I thought that he may have eaten something bad or had a stomach bug - especially since he only vomited once on Monday and seemed fine on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.

2) Excessive thirst (polydypsia) and frequent urination (polyurea) - I mistakenly assumed that this was because a) it was a very hot day and b) he had vomited earlier in the week so his body was trying to re-hydrate. Since he had drank a lot more, the frequent urination didn't throw up any red flag to me.

3) He lost more than 10% of his body weight (normally 100 lbs, was 88 lbs in ED). I didn't realize that he had lost so much weight since a) we don't measure his weight daily, b) he usually gains weight around his belly and then has a growth spurt, c) his facial features may have changed due to the weight loss but I didn't realize it since he now had long hair (we have been avoiding the barber and other people due to COVID) which made him look different. Plus I expected him to "look sick" since he had been vomiting and was probably a little dehydrated.


Given that neither my wife or I are diabetic, thinking that our son may have type 1 diabetes didn't even come up on our radar - although my mother had died from it when I was young. He didn't appear "that sick" so we were thinking it was just a stomach bug or that he had eaten/drank a spoiled food or had food poisoning. We were very wrong.


Fortunately, my son had already gotten his second COVID shot and had reached full efficacy. If he hadn't reached full efficacy, I might have delayed taking him to the ED by another day in the hopes that his vomiting would resolve at home so that we wouldn't risk possibly being exposed to COVID at the hospital. That could have been a fatal mistake.


According to all of the doctors and nurses that I talked with, the above scenario is very common. Most pediatric Type 1 diabetics are diagnosed as the result of diabetic ketoacidosis - not as some part of routine healthcare screening. Looking back, the biggest telltale sign to me should have been the excessive thirst/frequent urination.



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 Posted: Tue Jul 27th, 2021 01:21 pm
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Principal_Raditch wrote: One of the main hospital systems here in town has mandated vaccinations for employees. I expect the others to fall in line in the near future. Of course at work it's funny with some of my coworkers threatening to leave over the issue, or threatening to file lawsuits. Missouri's an At Will work state, so you can pretty much get shitcanned for anything here with few exceptions. THen if all the hospitals collude in this endeavor, which I fully expect them to do so, the options for work will be severly limited in scope outside working low end nursing homes and SNF's. Not sure how this will play out long term, short term though, I"m going ot take the extra $$$ that is now coming up with short staffing, and run with it



https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article253035138.html


The question has to be asked, at a legal level, are these actually vaccines?  We're learning from places like Israel, where "fully vaccinated" people account for a clear majority of currently hospitalized patients, that the effectiveness of these shots is fairly limited.  Already, discussions have started on regular boosters.  If there is no long-term benefit to these concoctions, only a short-term decrease in severity of illness, then I'm not sure they're actually vaccines but are more akin to therapeutics.  

And if that's the case, what right does anyone have to force their intake?  Persons aren't forced to take any other medicine intended to mitigate symptoms, from aspirin to chemo.  Why should this be different?  



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 Posted: Tue Jul 27th, 2021 01:24 pm
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At least at my hospital, you have to have proof of tetanus, MMR and a negative tuberculin test to be employed. I'm assuming it's the same at the others in the region. I"m guessing they're going to take the approach that employment isn't guaranteed, and as such, you can refuse the shot, but your job is done.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: At least at my hospital, you have to have proof of tetanus, MMR and a negative tuberculin test to be employed. I'm assuming it's the same at the others in the region. I"m guessing they're going to take the approach that employment isn't guaranteed, and as such, you can refuse the shot, but your job is done.

And those are vaccines with a proven track record of conferring long-lasting immunity.  That's not the case with the mRNA shots in question.  That's why I say this needs to be hammered out legally.  The nursing profession is often heavily staffed by blacks, who tend to be the most resistant to getting the Wuhan jab.  I can't wait for the howls of systemic racism when they're told they have to take the white man's/Jewish injection or they go back on the dole.  



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https://news.yahoo.com/doj-says-legal-mandate-covid-173600309.html

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Shit is soon going to hit the fan if TPTB continue pushing this stuff.  



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A nurse in Arkansas was interviewed and says all of the ICU beds are taken with covid patients. This was preventable.

60,000 cases a day in America . Medical experts are saying if this continues then by October there could be 4000 deaths a day. Southern states are doing the most damage. Too many low vaccinated states.

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Spatulapup wrote: A nurse in Arkansas was interviewed and says all of the ICU beds are taken with covid patients. This was preventable.

60,000 cases a day in America . Medical experts are saying if this continues then by October there could be 4000 deaths a day. Southern states are doing the most damage. Too many low vaccinated states.


I understand you're low-information but there's not a single credible medical expert who believes what you just wrote.  The delta variant infection curve is already halfway to its peak and will start to recede quickly before the end of August.  And even then, the numbers are markedly lower than they were last summer -- particularly in terms of deaths.  Notice that the Covidians have stopped talking deaths.  There's a reason for that.    




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Almost 22,000 cases in a day in Florida. Superb leadership there. It's sad watching Trumpers in hospital with covid wishing they had been vaccinated.

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Spatulapup wrote: Almost 22,000 cases in a day in Florida. Superb leadership there. It's sad watching Trumpers in hospital with covid wishing they had been vaccinated.In Missourah,  the people finally getting vaccinated were actually wearing disguises so no one recognizes them, and and then keeping it a secret. That's the kind of news stories we have here.

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This weekend was a mess. I get in Saturday and we had 40 holds. To put in perspective...I work in a small hospital. We have 31 Med Surge beds with 10 overflow. 12 ICU beds with 2 overflow. 31 Tele beds...There's OB/Labor and Delivery..but I don't count those. So for regular patients, you're talking 86 beds on the floor. These nonvaccinated hillbilly fucks are sucking up so many of our beds right now that we are bottlenecking on regular patients, and having to go on diversion. Over 30% of our beds were covid occupiers.

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So the anti-vaxxers are nuts but the hardcore vaxxers have become a frightening cult. Today Kathy Griffin announced she has lung cancer and needs to have half her left lung removed. That’s pretty fucking serious. But in her announcement post, she spent most of her time talking about Covid and wrote “The consequences of being unvaccinated would’ve been even more serious.”  When skeptics read shit like that about something that has almost no chance of killing you, they convince themselves they’re the sane ones, and I guess in comparison they are. How the fuck did Covid reach this mythical level on the left where you’d rather get cancer?



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How the fuck did Covid reach this mythical level on the left where you’d rather get cancer?


Ultimately, it's also how and why you get a population where a high percentage of people think it's a hoax, it's overblown, it isn't dangerous unless you're 70+ years old, I'm not taking the vaccine, it's not safe, etc

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Also part of this - confusing 'guidance' from the CDC and then there's the times the 'one percent' are seen/caught no masks/no distancing.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: At least at my hospital, you have to have proof of tetanus, MMR and a negative tuberculin test to be employed. I'm assuming it's the same at the others in the region. I"m guessing they're going to take the approach that employment isn't guaranteed, and as such, you can refuse the shot, but your job is done.This is what I don't get. A highly trained RN isn't as easy to replace as a cab driver. I'm sure you'll agree that if you lose say five nurses you're going to be in serious trouble. There is not an endless supply of nurses ready to step in and hit the ground running.



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