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 Posted: Tue Oct 12th, 2021 01:43 pm
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I agree with everything that Raditch said. The COVID vaccine mandate will become the new normal and anyone who wants a job in healthcare will grow to accept it just like they accept mandatory flu vaccines, TB testing, and all of the other vaccines that they must have as a condition of employment.


If it could be shown that the vaccine prevents transmission, then I think everybody would be more accepting of getting the vaccine - especially healthcare workers since they generally care about people and don't want to cause harm. The messaging that all of the hospitals in my area have used has been "get it for yourself, get it for your family, get it for your community" and have really driven home the public health benefits of getting vaccinated. I think that messaging is a big reason why the clinical staff vaccination rate is at 98% while the vaccination rate for other hospitals in the state is much lower.

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I agree completely that if it could be shown that the vaccine prevents transmission many more people would get vaccinated.

Problem is it WAS sold that way and appeared to be very effective in preventing the transmission of the dominant variant. But then around the same time as the vaccine rollout started in earnest the Delta variant took over and the vaccine is clearly not particularly effective at stopping infections of that. This is apparent from countries like my own, with almost everyone over 16 vaccinated. However, instead of being up front about it we keep hearing that unvaccinated are spreading to vaccinated. And it's laregly bullshit. Biden last week said Healthcare workers needed to be vaccinated to STOP transmission to patients. The way this stuff is being promoted often doesn't make sense and some people are naturally sceptical and/or will look at the evidence and their own chances of dying from covid and willtake a calculated risk and hold off for now at least.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 12th, 2021 09:37 pm
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Jim_Irish wrote: I agree completely that if it could be shown that the vaccine prevents transmission many more people would get vaccinated.

Problem is it WAS sold that way and appeared to be very effective in preventing the transmission of the dominant variant. But then around the same time as the vaccine rollout started in earnest the Delta variant took over and the vaccine is clearly not particularly effective at stopping infections of that. This is apparent from countries like my own, with almost everyone over 16 vaccinated. However, instead of being up front about it we keep hearing that unvaccinated are spreading to vaccinated. And it's laregly bullshit. Biden last week said Healthcare workers needed to be vaccinated to STOP transmission to patients. The way this stuff is being promoted often doesn't make sense and some people are naturally sceptical and/or will look at the evidence and their own chances of dying from covid and willtake a calculated risk and hold off for now at least.

Right. And I get that the virus is new and nobody is 100% sure about anything regarding it, but we've been misinformed from the beginning. And when nobody can just say "hey, we were wrong, the vax won't prevent the virus from spreading, but its still important to take because if you DO get it, it will lessen the symptoms you have" but you know, God forbid anyone admits when they are wrong. And they completely discount any treatments that have been shown to work (just look at Joe Rogan) because big pharma isn't getting a cut... it just looks shadier and worse than it might be otherwise.



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 Posted: Tue Oct 12th, 2021 10:04 pm
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The tough part is figuring out what the result would have been vaccinated vs unvaccinated if you get it. I picked it up in August. Was my reaction lessened with the vaccines vs not? No idea. But going by what I see at work, the numbers still skew to the ICU Covid's almost being exclusively unvaccinated, and even the Med Surge/Tele patients we get being the same. It obviously can be transmitted by both, as I'm sure I got it from my wife and we both were done. But I'm also going to think things through more so than the majority of people in this country. To be blunt, I live in an area of full of dumb motherfuckers who have limited ability to be introspective or process anything more than a surface layer thought. So what's the point in engaging with someone whose education is based on getting to grade 10, and a good read is an Archie Comic book.

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Just got an email from work. Looks like they just gave everyone a 2k bonus and bumped the min wage to $17.50/hr.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: The tough part is figuring out what the result would have been vaccinated vs unvaccinated if you get it. I picked it up in August. Was my reaction lessened with the vaccines vs not? No idea. But going by what I see at work, the numbers still skew to the ICU Covid's almost being exclusively unvaccinated, and even the Med Surge/Tele patients we get being the same. It obviously can be transmitted by both, as I'm sure I got it from my wife and we both were done. But I'm also going to think things through more so than the majority of people in this country. To be blunt, I live in an area of full of dumb motherfuckers who have limited ability to be introspective or process anything more than a surface layer thought. So what's the point in engaging with someone whose education is based on getting to grade 10, and a good read is an Archie Comic book.
That's the other side of the coin, some people are too stupid to actually think properly or reasonably. Good to hear about the pay rise, I don't think anyone can begrudge front line health workers, many of whom aren't paid all that much in the first place. 

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 Posted: Thu Oct 14th, 2021 06:01 am
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Joe Rogan asked Dr Sanjay Gupta why CNN lied about him recently on his podcast in relation to horse dewormer.


The clip is out there if you want to see it.



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Franchise wrote: Joe Rogan asked Dr Sanjay Gupta why CNN lied about him recently on his podcast in relation to horse dewormer.


The clip is out there if you want to see it.

This has all the quotes:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/joe-rogan-dr-sanjay-gupta-cnn-ivermectin



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Principal_Raditch wrote: Just got an email from work. Looks like they just gave everyone a 2k bonus and bumped the min wage to $17.50/hr.
Who gets minimum wage in a hospital environment? PSW's? Cleaning staff?


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khawk wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: Just got an email from work. Looks like they just gave everyone a 2k bonus and bumped the min wage to $17.50/hr.
Who gets minimum wage in a hospital environment? PSW's? Cleaning staff?



Food service / dietary staff
Patient transport staff
Cleaning staff (Janitors / Laundry / Equipment sanitizers)
Maintenance workers
Low level med staff such as pharmacy technicians, lab techs
Security
Customer service workers (information desk workers, etc)
and many more that I can't think of at the moment

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BGF covered it. Also people like screeners, admitting desk. This is now the starting wage. We have a fair amount of part time workers who are in school, so this increase since last year should help supplement a portion of their costs.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 15th, 2021 01:41 am
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Big Garea Fan wrote: khawk wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: Just got an email from work. Looks like they just gave everyone a 2k bonus and bumped the min wage to $17.50/hr.
Who gets minimum wage in a hospital environment? PSW's? Cleaning staff?



Food service / dietary staff
Patient transport staff
Cleaning staff (Janitors / Laundry / Equipment sanitizers)
Maintenance workers
Low level med staff such as pharmacy technicians, lab techs
Security
Customer service workers (information desk workers, etc)
and many more that I can't think of at the moment

That many eh? That kind of surprises me.

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srossi wrote: Franchise wrote: Joe Rogan asked Dr Sanjay Gupta why CNN lied about him recently on his podcast in relation to horse dewormer.


The clip is out there if you want to see it.

This has all the quotes:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/joe-rogan-dr-sanjay-gupta-cnn-ivermectin

Joe Rogan:

If you’ve only seen clips online you would think that @drsanjaygupta and I had a tense and uncomfortable encounter when we sat down for 3 hours.  The reality is that disagreement was a very small part of what was overall a very enjoyable conversation.  Sanjay is a really nice person and I like him a lot.  After our time together I consider him a friend.  People on network TV don’t have anything remotely similar to the kind of freedom I enjoy doing the podcast.   For him to dive into my world and have a real open form conversation with no restrictions took real courage, and I appreciate it very much.



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srossi wrote: srossi wrote: Franchise wrote: Joe Rogan asked Dr Sanjay Gupta why CNN lied about him recently on his podcast in relation to horse dewormer.


The clip is out there if you want to see it.

This has all the quotes:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/joe-rogan-dr-sanjay-gupta-cnn-ivermectin

Joe Rogan:

If you’ve only seen clips online you would think that @drsanjaygupta and I had a tense and uncomfortable encounter when we sat down for 3 hours.  The reality is that disagreement was a very small part of what was overall a very enjoyable conversation.  Sanjay is a really nice person and I like him a lot.  After our time together I consider him a friend.  People on network TV don’t have anything remotely similar to the kind of freedom I enjoy doing the podcast.   For him to dive into my world and have a real open form conversation with no restrictions took real courage, and I appreciate it very much.


Did Rogan post this before or after CNN doubled down on Horse Dewormer? 



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Franchise wrote: srossi wrote: srossi wrote: Franchise wrote: Joe Rogan asked Dr Sanjay Gupta why CNN lied about him recently on his podcast in relation to horse dewormer.


The clip is out there if you want to see it.

This has all the quotes:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/joe-rogan-dr-sanjay-gupta-cnn-ivermectin

Joe Rogan:

If you’ve only seen clips online you would think that @drsanjaygupta and I had a tense and uncomfortable encounter when we sat down for 3 hours.  The reality is that disagreement was a very small part of what was overall a very enjoyable conversation.  Sanjay is a really nice person and I like him a lot.  After our time together I consider him a friend.  People on network TV don’t have anything remotely similar to the kind of freedom I enjoy doing the podcast.   For him to dive into my world and have a real open form conversation with no restrictions took real courage, and I appreciate it very much.


Did Rogan post this before or after CNN doubled down on Horse Dewormer? 

I posted it within a half hour of him posting it. 



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