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Big Garea Fan
|Currently, there are only 2 vaccines available (Pfizer and Moderna). The vaccine from Johnson & Johnson is hoped to get FDA Emergency Use Approval next week. States have large-scale plans for administering the vaccine, the problem is that they don't have the vaccine on hand to administer since the manufacturers can't keep up with demand. Federal and state governments are throwing tons of money away in relief efforts to small businesses, restaurants, rent relief, etc.
Instead of having only 2 companies manufacturing a vaccine (Pfizer or Moderna), could the government purchase the vaccine's patent (recipe) from one of those companies and then contract with other drug manufacturers (such as Merck, Sanofi-Aventis, Lilly, etc) that already have established manufacturing plants and processes to have them all produce the vaccine from the same recipe? Given the amount of $ being thrown at relief efforts, I would think that it would be cheaper for the government to give Pfizer a couple trillion (pick a number) to buy their patent and other proven COVID vaccine intellectual property. Generic drug companies do this all the time when a drug's patent expires. The vaccine supply would increase exponentially and it could bring the pandemic to a quicker end.
Last edited on Tue Jan 26th, 2021 07:25 pm by Big Garea Fan
'18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer
|The government is part of the problem right now. They have done a shit job with the distribution, plus I've heard stories that some states have a million doses but since the government it only allowing it to a certain class of people (elderly, health care, and front liners on the retail level) it's just not working. Elderly people are afraid to take it, because they are elderly. So let's say they don't come in for it. Shouldn't there be a time limit until they can release it to the masses? Then, if the elderly want it, they could in effect "cut the line" later on.
There was an instance in California where the freezer warehouse storing over a half million doses failed, and they just started grabbing people off the street to vaccinate so that it wouldn't go bad. I'm not going to make this about Trump or Biden, but from what I read, there is really no set guideline for the supply chain going from the manufacturer to the distributor to the patient. The entire thing is a giant clusterfuck and it's bullshit that politics are getting in the way of health.
Big Garea Fan
The government is part of the problem right now. They have done a shit job with the distribution, plus I've heard stories that some states have a million doses but since the government it only allowing it to a certain class of people (elderly, health care, and front liners on the retail level) it's just not working. Elderly people are afraid to take it, because they are elderly. So let's say they don't come in for it. Shouldn't there be a time limit until they can release it to the masses? Then, if the elderly want it, they could in effect "cut the line" later on.
There was an instance in California where the freezer warehouse storing over a half million doses failed, and they just started grabbing people off the street to vaccinate so that it wouldn't go bad. I'm not going to make this about Trump or Biden, but from what I read, there is really no set guideline for the supply chain going from the manufacturer to the distributor to the patient. The entire thing is a giant clusterfuck and it's bullshit that politics are getting in the way of health
I think that all of the state and federal officials are pointing fingers at each other and the general public will never truly know what the holdup is. Maryland's governor claims that the state is not getting enough vaccine (approximately 10,000 doses per day) to vaccinate its 6 million residents. He held a press conference today where he announced mass vaccination sites, expanded vaccination sites (such as additional retail pharmacies), etc. but none of these sites are going to do much since the state doesn't have vaccine available for them to vaccinate people with.
Also interesting is that only 40% of the state's healthcare workers have received the vaccine so far. I doubt if it is a supply issue for them - my hospital has had plenty of supply to vaccinate its staff even the non-frontline workers. If the doctors, nurses, and other healthcare workers don't trust the vaccine enough to get it, I don't think the general public will be eager to get the vaccine either. Herd immunity isn't looking so certain at this rate.
'18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer
|Big Garea Fan wrote:
Superstar wrote:CVS has been all over this shit telling everybody that they will be the #1 vaccination site. No vaccines have been delivered to them in my state. I absolutely want the vaccine. If I get sick, ok, but I want it. It sure beats dying.The government is part of the problem right now. They have done a shit job with the distribution, plus I've heard stories that some states have a million doses but since the government it only allowing it to a certain class of people (elderly, health care, and front liners on the retail level) it's just not working. Elderly people are afraid to take it, because they are elderly. So let's say they don't come in for it. Shouldn't there be a time limit until they can release it to the masses? Then, if the elderly want it, they could in effect "cut the line" later on.
Big Garea Fan
|Maybe Biden reads this board...
White House exploring tapping drugmakers to produce rivals' vaccines
(Reuters) - The White House COVID-19 response team on Wednesday raised the possibility that drug manufacturers who are not making vaccines may be tapped to produce Pfizer's or Moderna's vaccines under the Defense Production Act.
"I don't want to talk about specific names but I will say that we are exploring every possible option," Andy Slavitt, senior advisor to the White House's COVID-19 response team, told a media briefing when asked whether the Biden administration might force one drug maker to produce another's vaccine.
These are delicate processes, very sterile processes and have to be done in a way that actually completely works but we're not afraid to explore every option to get more vaccines to the public as quickly as possible."
Biden has said that he will leverage the government's authority under the Defense Production Act to meet supply needs in twelve areas that have immediate shortages, including shortages in dead-space needle syringes and protective equipment.
Sanofi's CEO Paul Hudson said that his company will make 100 million doses of vaccine made by rival Pfizer in a Tuesday interview with newspaper Le Figaro.
Last edited on Wed Jan 27th, 2021 06:22 pm by Big Garea Fan
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|Merck to help manufacture the J&J vaccine
President Biden will announce Tuesday that pharmaceutical giant Merck will help make Johnson & Johnson’s single-shot coronavirus vaccine — an unusual pact between fierce competitors that could sharply boost the supply of the newly authorized vaccine, according to senior administration officials.
The officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a matter that has not been announced, said they began scouring the country for additional manufacturing capacity after they realized in the first days of the administration that Johnson & Johnson had fallen behind in vaccine production. They soon sought to broker a deal with Merck, one of the world’s largest vaccine makers, which had failed to develop its own coronavirus vaccine.
Under the arrangement, Merck will dedicate two facilities in the United States to Johnson & Johnson’s shots. One will provide “fill-finish” services, the last stage of the production process during which the vaccine substance is placed in vials and packaged for distribution. The other will make the vaccine, and has the potential to vastly increase supply, perhaps even doubling what Johnson & Johnson could make on its own, the officials said.
“It’s a historic partnership,” said one of the officials, adding that the companies “recognize this is a wartime effort.” He praised their sense of “corporate citizenship.”
The officials declined to provide details about how Merck’s involvement will affect the projected supply of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine and the timetable for distributing it. It could easily take two months to get the “fill-finish” plant ready and a few more months to equip the other facility to make the vaccine, according to a person familiar with the process who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the issue.
How does the Johnson & Johnson vaccine work? When is it available? What to know about the new shot. The Biden administration’s efforts to ramp up production of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine suggest that it sees the vaccine playing a bigger role in addressing the challenges ahead, such as the eventual need for children’s vaccines and possibly for boosters to counter virus variants, said a person familiar with the situation who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss it. Johnson & Johnson is conducting a trial of a two-shot vaccine regimen, with the doses given two months apart; results are not expected until at least May.
Johnson & Johnson did not respond to a request for comment. Merck did not comment on the deal but said it “remains steadfast in our commitment to contribute to the global response to the pandemic.''
The administration officials indicated Biden would wield the powers of the Defense Production Act, a Korean War-era law, to give Merck priority in securing equipment it will need to upgrade its facilities for vaccine production, including the purchase of machinery, bags, tubing and filtration systems.
In teaming up with Merck, Johnson & Johnson has a partner with a century-long tradition of making vaccines. In the United States, Merck is the sole supplier of the combination childhood vaccine that protects against measles, mumps and rubella. It developed Gardasil, which protects against the human papillomavirus. And it won Food and Drug Administration approval for an Ebola vaccine in 2019.
But the company, which makes vaccines in North Carolina, Pennsylvania and elsewhere, encountered setbacks in its quest to develop a coronavirus vaccine. Merck announced Jan. 25 that it was halting work on two experimental shots for the virus. The vaccine did not stimulate enough antibodies in Phase 1 human clinical trials to justify continuing, the company said.
Johnson & Johnson has been searching the world for manufacturing sites where it could produce doses of its vaccine on a global scale. It has publicly disclosed more than half a dozen manufacturing sites on four continents that it said were winnowed from more than 100 possibilities.
“While the science and the biology, the chemistry is certainly challenging … the engineering feat of actually producing it is just as challenging, and we’ve been working very, very closely with partners around the world,” Johnson & Johnson CEO Alex Gorsky told CNBC on Monday.
Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine uses an adenovirus vaccine as a vector — a harmless cold virus that does not replicate in the body — to deliver DNA instructions into a healthy human cell. The cell uses the genetic instructions to create a replica of a coronavirus spike protein that triggers an immune response that can recognize — and respond to — the real thing. The U.S. government paid the company $2 billion for development and clinical trials and preorders at a price of $10 per dose just days after it received emergency authorization from federal regulators.
The FDA on Saturday authorized the Johnson & Johnson vaccine for use in those 18 and older. The company said it would immediately ship nearly 4 million doses in the United States, and a total of 20 million by the end of March, which is 17 million less than expected under its government contract. Its current schedule calls for a recovery from those delays, with the company saying it is on track to deliver 100 million doses by the end of June. A top company executive told Congress last week that it has a goal of manufacturing 1 billion doses worldwide by year’s end.
Most of Johnson & Johnson’s partners disclosed to date are contract manufacturing companies, but now it is moving to team with larger drug companies that have seen their own vaccine projects delayed or fizzled.
Sanofi — which had to reboot its clinical trials of a vaccine candidate after early stumbles — announced last week that it would help Johnson & Johnson with final production steps and bottling in vials in Europe. Projected capacity from a Sanofi plant in France is 12 million doses per month.
Catch up on the most important developments in the pandemic with our coronavirus newsletter. All stories in it are free to access. BioNTech, Pfizer’s German partner on its mRNA vaccine, also announced deals in January for rivals Sanofi and Novartis to fill and finish vaccine vials in Europe.
The manufacturing process is time-consuming: Johnson and Johnson ferments large batches of its vaccine in vats at a contract manufacturing facility in Baltimore operated by Emergent, as well as locations in the Netherlands and India. That brewing step takes two months.
Then, the vaccine needs to be put into its final formulation and packaged into vials for shipping, which takes another five to six weeks, including testing for purity. In the United States and Europe, that final “fill-finish” process for vaccines has created bottlenecks across the industry, as manufacturers have flooded the supply chain with demand to finish hundreds of millions of doses.
Johnson & Johnson has agreements for fill-finish work to be done by two companies in the United States: Grand River Aseptic, with plants in Michigan, and Catalent, at a plant in Indiana. Catalent also is performing fill-finish operations for Moderna, which is obligated to deliver 300 million doses of its mRNA vaccine to the government by the end of July.
In Italy, Catalent also is helping Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca manufacture their vaccines.
Moderna said on Feb. 16 that Catalent had suffered short-term delays on final production of Moderna’s vaccine, but that the disruptions would not affect monthly deliveries to the U.S. government. The Financial Times reported on Saturday that Catalent’s system for automatic visual inspection of Johnson & Johnson vials had broken down, forcing staff members to inspect vials manually.
Catalent did not respond to a request for comment. The company told investors in an earnings call last month that it had sufficient, dedicated capacity at its Bloomington, Ind., plant to handle the vaccine volume for both companies.
Merck’s help in making Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine probably will require it to examine its product lines and decide what can be delayed or shifted, said John Grabenstein, a consultant and former executive director of medical affairs for vaccines at Merck.
“The question is, where is the bottleneck? The filling machines and the packaging machines are often the rate-limiting step,” he said. From a technical standpoint, it’s not too hard for other companies to help out, he said.
“It’s not just a mechanical engineering problem. It’s what products might get displaced to do this extra work,” he said. “Is there idle equipment? Oftentimes, there isn’t.”
Merck continues working on a pair of coronavirus treatments. One is an antiviral pill it is developing with a small company called Ridgeback Bio. It purchased worldwide rights to the drug last year from Ridgeback and has entered a late-phase clinical trial in an ongoing collaboration.
The other experimental Merck drug is an anti-inflammatory protein that it received as part of the purchase last year of a smaller company, OncoImmune.