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There is only about 6-7  WWE items available on Peacock right now.  Does anybody know if this is supposed to increase?  Will these current items be replaced with something else monthly?  Or is it just too early to tell what the hell the hell is going to happen with WWE programming on there? 

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It doesn’t really move to Peacock until March 18. It’s really strange that as a long-time subscriber I’ve received exactly ZERO e-mails about the transition or how to continue watching. They don’t seem to care at all.

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srossi wrote: It doesn’t really move to Peacock until March 18. It’s really strange that as a long-time subscriber I’ve received exactly ZERO e-mails about the transition or how to continue watching. They don’t seem to care at all.
Yeah, I thought for sure we would have heard something by now.  I'm guessing any talk about this is being delayed for several reasons, including WWE not wanting to field any questions in regards to what is moving over and what isn't.  If they do say something foolish about it and cause a bunch of people to unsubscribe, I can't imagine that making NBC too happy.

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Boz1515 wrote: srossi wrote: It doesn’t really move to Peacock until March 18. It’s really strange that as a long-time subscriber I’ve received exactly ZERO e-mails about the transition or how to continue watching. They don’t seem to care at all.
Yeah, I thought for sure we would have heard something by now.  I'm guessing any talk about this is being delayed for several reasons, including WWE not wanting to field any questions in regards to what is moving over and what isn't.  If they do say something foolish about it and cause a bunch of people to unsubscribe, I can't imagine that making NBC too happy.

I got an email from Peacock tonight advertising all the new March additions. WWE Network isn’t even mentioned. I have a really bad feeling about this future of this. 

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Wel, there has been some WWE content on there already and it has not changed with the new month.

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srossi wrote: Boz1515 wrote: srossi wrote: It doesn’t really move to Peacock until March 18. It’s really strange that as a long-time subscriber I’ve received exactly ZERO e-mails about the transition or how to continue watching. They don’t seem to care at all.
Yeah, I thought for sure we would have heard something by now.  I'm guessing any talk about this is being delayed for several reasons, including WWE not wanting to field any questions in regards to what is moving over and what isn't.  If they do say something foolish about it and cause a bunch of people to unsubscribe, I can't imagine that making NBC too happy.

I got an email from Peacock tonight advertising all the new March additions. WWE Network isn’t even mentioned. I have a really bad feeling about this future of this. 

I got one too.  In my email, when I scroll down into the yellow box, it mentions WWE Network on March 18, and Fastlane on March 21.

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Boz1515 wrote: srossi wrote: Boz1515 wrote: srossi wrote: It doesn’t really move to Peacock until March 18. It’s really strange that as a long-time subscriber I’ve received exactly ZERO e-mails about the transition or how to continue watching. They don’t seem to care at all.
Yeah, I thought for sure we would have heard something by now.  I'm guessing any talk about this is being delayed for several reasons, including WWE not wanting to field any questions in regards to what is moving over and what isn't.  If they do say something foolish about it and cause a bunch of people to unsubscribe, I can't imagine that making NBC too happy.

I got an email from Peacock tonight advertising all the new March additions. WWE Network isn’t even mentioned. I have a really bad feeling about this future of this. 

I got one too.  In my email, when I scroll down into the yellow box, it mentions WWE Network on March 18, and Fastlane on March 21.


They sure didn’t highlight it because I didn’t see it at all. 

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srossi wrote: Boz1515 wrote: srossi wrote: Boz1515 wrote: srossi wrote: It doesn’t really move to Peacock until March 18. It’s really strange that as a long-time subscriber I’ve received exactly ZERO e-mails about the transition or how to continue watching. They don’t seem to care at all.
Yeah, I thought for sure we would have heard something by now.  I'm guessing any talk about this is being delayed for several reasons, including WWE not wanting to field any questions in regards to what is moving over and what isn't.  If they do say something foolish about it and cause a bunch of people to unsubscribe, I can't imagine that making NBC too happy.

I got an email from Peacock tonight advertising all the new March additions. WWE Network isn’t even mentioned. I have a really bad feeling about this future of this. 

I got one too.  In my email, when I scroll down into the yellow box, it mentions WWE Network on March 18, and Fastlane on March 21.


They sure didn’t highlight it because I didn’t see it at all. 

Yeah, no graphic or anything.  It kind of looks like an afterthought lol.  

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I don't see any mention of episodes 1970s Florida television. Must be coming next month.

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Kriss wrote: I don't see any mention of episodes 1970s Florida television. Must be coming next month.
We're getting Total Bellas Season 6.  Stop complaining.

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The YouTube channel 106 N. Albany does well to edit the full episodes they do have and create their own features out of it. That little crackerbox studio was redressed so many times you can visually timestamp most any clipping even with little background to support it.

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I do not think there is anything listed there that is of interest to me.  
Yikes.

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The rise of Beth Phoenix from just another woman on the roster during her prime to "Female ICON and Trailblazer" after her retirement has been an odd one. At the beginning it was kind of like, "Hmmm, they're blowing a bit of smoke about Beth" and fast forward a few years and it's laughably over-the-top. She's basically become the top former female wrestler in the history of the company, not just replacing Moolah who got canceled but also Trish and Lita somehow. Being married to Edge helps, but this is really crazy. They might as well just bring back Scotty Too Hotty and pretend he was Hulk Hogan. Does anyone remember one great Beth match? I'm struggling to even recall a feud she was involved in or anything that she did of any importance.

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srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: I don't see any mention of episodes 1970s Florida television. Must be coming next month.
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srossi wrote: The rise of Beth Phoenix from just another woman on the roster during her prime to "Female ICON and Trailblazer" after her retirement has been an odd one. At the beginning it was kind of like, "Hmmm, they're blowing a bit of smoke about Beth" and fast forward a few years and it's laughably over-the-top. She's basically become the top former female wrestler in the history of the company, not just replacing Moolah who got canceled but also Trish and Lita somehow. Being married to Edge helps, but this is really crazy. They might as well just bring back Scotty Too Hotty and pretend he was Hulk Hogan. Does anyone remember one great Beth match? I'm struggling to even recall a feud she was involved in or anything that she did of any importance.
I could literally name 100 different people more of a WWE "Icon" than Beth.  It's just silly at this point, unless "Icon" now is the 2021 equivalent to WWE "Superstar", which everyone evolved into about 10-12 years ago.  

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Blazer wrote: srossi wrote: The rise of Beth Phoenix from just another woman on the roster during her prime to "Female ICON and Trailblazer" after her retirement has been an odd one. At the beginning it was kind of like, "Hmmm, they're blowing a bit of smoke about Beth" and fast forward a few years and it's laughably over-the-top. She's basically become the top former female wrestler in the history of the company, not just replacing Moolah who got canceled but also Trish and Lita somehow. Being married to Edge helps, but this is really crazy. They might as well just bring back Scotty Too Hotty and pretend he was Hulk Hogan. Does anyone remember one great Beth match? I'm struggling to even recall a feud she was involved in or anything that she did of any importance.
I could literally name 100 different people more of a WWE "Icon" than Beth.  It's just silly at this point, unless "Icon" now is the 2021 equivalent to WWE "Superstar", which everyone evolved into about 10-12 years ago.  

Well "Icon" is just the title of the show she's being profiled on, and the fisrt episode with Yokozuna, also not exactly an icon, was fantastic.  I'm fine with that but Beth is EVERYWHERE and and has become the primary female presence of WWE, next to only Stephanie herself.  I listen to people talk about her in interviews and I wonder if I went into a coma for 10 years and missed the best part of her career.

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PWInsider:

For those wondering about the migration of WWE Network to Peacock later this month, the FAQ page on the streaming service has some clarity.

The page lists that Raw, SmackDown and NXT will all keep the same on-demand window with Raw and SmackDown, having 30 days from the original airing and NXT will continue to be added, the next day.

As for what WWE Network subscribers need to do the transfer, it says the following, "Starting in April, Peacock will be the exclusive streaming home of WWE Network. Until then, you can keep watching directly on WWE?Network, as long as you have an active subscription. You can also create a Peacock account to?stream WWE Network on Peacock?beginning March 18. Note: WrestleMania on April 10 and 11 will only be available to stream on Peacock."

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WWE finally sent me an e-mail this morning leading to the above link. You basically can't do anything until March 18 though.

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WWE issued a press release this afternoon about the WWE Network migration to NBC Universal's streaming service Peacock.

Of the most interest to diehard fans, it was announced:

*The existing WWE Network in the United States will shut down on 4/4.

*The entirety of the WWE Network will not be available on Peacock at launch, which given there's thousands upon thousands of piece of content available, makes sense. The plan, according to the press release, is to have everything migrated over to Peacock by Summerslam this August.

*There is a limited time 50% discounted offer for existing WWE Network subscribers to subscribe to four months of the Peacock Premium service for $9.99 total instead of $19.96.

NOTE - Before anyone asks, WWE Network subscribers outside of the United States will have no changes to how they subscribe or stream content.

The official press release reads:

WWE NETWORK TO LAUNCH ON PEACOCK MARCH 18

WWE Network Subscribers Save $5.00 per Month by Signing Up for Peacock Premium

Peacock Premium to Stream Fastlane on March 21 and WrestleMania on April 10-11

New York, NY, and Stamford, Conn., March 8, 2021—Starting March 18, Peacock will begin rolling out WWE Network content just before Fastlane, the first WWE pay-per-view (PPV) event on the service. The new WWE destination on Peacock will feature fan-favorite content at launch, including all past WrestleManias leading up to WrestleMania 37—streaming exclusively on Peacock.

WWE will have a dedicated page on Peacock where fans can browse and access every PPV event in the last calendar year; current or most recent season episodes of WWE original series Steve Austin’s The Broken Skull Sessions, WWE Chronicle, and WWE Icons; in-ring action with new weekly episodes of NXT the day after air, as well as the 2021 replays of RAW and SmackDown 30 days after air; groundbreaking documentaries, including Undertaker: The Last Ride, WWE 24, and WWE Untold; reality series, including Total Bellas; as well as collections of featured series, topical moments like “Stone Cold” Steve Austin Week, and playlists showcasing current Superstars.

Peacock will continually add WWE Network content to the library, making the entire WWE Network archive—including every WWE, WCW, and ECW PPV event in history—available to stream on demand before SummerSlam.

Peacock Premium will be home to all upcoming PPV events and the current seasons of WWE Original shows. In the free tier, Peacock will offer a new WWE channel; select WWE Original shows; reality shows like Miz and Mrs., Total Bellas, and Total Divas; recent in-ring content; and new weekly episodes of select live shows like RAW Talk and The Bump, both live and on demand.

When WWE sunsets the existing standalone WWE Network app on April 4, Peacock will be the exclusive streaming home to WWE Network in the U.S. To continue streaming WWE Network content, fans will need to sign up for Peacock. As previously announced, WWE Network, including all PPVs, will be available on Peacock Premium for $4.99—a $5.00/month savings. Starting today, Peacock is also offering the WWE Universe deeper savings for a limited time—details available at http://www.PeacockTV.com/WWE.

Peacock Premium is included at no additional cost for Comcast’s eligible Xfinity X1 and Flex customers and Cox Contour customers. Peacock is currently available on the Roku platform; Apple devices, including iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Apple TV 4K, and Apple TV HD; Google platforms and devices, including Android, Android TV devices, Chromecast, and Chromecast built-in devices; Microsoft’s Xbox One family of devices, including Xbox One S and Xbox One X; Sony PlayStation 4, PlayStation 4 Pro, and PlayStation 5; and VIZIO SmartCast TVs and LG Smart TVs.

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bpickering wrote: *The entirety of the WWE Network will not be available on Peacock at launch, which given there's thousands upon thousands of piece of content available, makes sense. The plan, according to the press release, is to have everything migrated over to Peacock by Summerslam this August.

So for 4 months they want you to pay to see a far reduced library?  And let's face it, some of this stuff may never be migrated over even if they say that it will. 

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srossi wrote: bpickering wrote: *The entirety of the WWE Network will not be available on Peacock at launch, which given there's thousands upon thousands of piece of content available, makes sense. The plan, according to the press release, is to have everything migrated over to Peacock by Summerslam this August.

So for 4 months they want you to pay to see a far reduced library?  And let's face it, some of this stuff may never be migrated over even if they say that it will. 

Just because NBC bought everything, they don't need to use everything. I'm not sure how interested they really are in bad-VHS quality ECW from the early 90s or obscure Scottish and German wrestling shows. The PPV events are a draw, especially the live ones and the documentaries are very well made. There's a lot of stuff on the Network that they wouldn't want anything to do with, however, if they ever found out exactly what was in there. It's "come for the wrestling, stay for the 'cock." With the deal for customers at the moment, they could drop 95% of what's on the Network and it would make very little difference.

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Just gonna let my network access expire and give Peacock a few months before I invest in a router to watch shit.

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I'm thinking that "Come for the wrestling, stay for the Cock" should be the 2021 version of "The World Wrestling Federation - Bigger, Better, Badder". I think we can make it work, possibly one of Kriss' best contributions to the board, and Kriss has always brought the content.

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The offer is four months for $9.99. If it were Royal Rumble season, I would be in.

Sound like the rollout is being done by the federal government.

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For anybody that has Peacock now through Comcast.....is this Peacock Premium or is there another tier called Peacock Premium that will have an additional cost?

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bpickering wrote:  Starting today, Peacock is also offering the WWE Universe deeper savings for a limited time—details available at http://www.PeacockTV.com/WWE.


This page is no longer available.  They've done such an incredibly piss-poor job of converting subscribers that even when I want to do it, I can't.

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srossi wrote: bpickering wrote:  Starting today, Peacock is also offering the WWE Universe deeper savings for a limited time—details available at http://www.PeacockTV.com/WWE.


This page is no longer available.  They've done such an incredibly piss-poor job of converting subscribers that even when I want to do it, I can't.

So this is now the link - https://www.peacocktv.com/sports/wwe.  NBC is bringing the "sports" back to WWE.

It looks like this offer is also available to all first-time subscribers to Peacock, and not just existing WWE Network subscribers, as the press release originally said.

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More great news coming out for the switch to Peacock. You will no longer be allowed to pause or rewind live programming, which is a huge fucking problem for me and probably for anyone else who actually has a life and needs to do other things in the middle of a PPV.  It used to be the easiest thing in the world to pause the show while I put my kid to bed or do the dishes and then fast forward through all the video recaps to get back to live time.  No more!

Also, upon launch there will be no search function to speak of like before. You'll be able to search for individual events nut nothing more specific like wrestlers.

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srossi wrote: More great news coming out for the switch to Peacock. You will no longer be allowed to pause or rewind live programming, which is a huge fucking problem for me and probably for anyone else who actually has a life and needs to do other things in the middle of a PPV.  It used to be the easiest thing in the world to pause the show while I put my kid to bed or do the dishes and then fast forward through all the video recaps to get back to live time.  No more!

Also, upon launch there will be no search function to speak of like before. You'll be able to search for individual events nut nothing more specific like wrestlers.


The search function came from the time markers. The site was great before the "upgrade" they did last year. Every match had a marker at the beginning and the end. The end maker kicked in just before the finish of the match, and I used to use that all the time if I wasn't interested in a match on an old show. Now there are only time markers at the start of each match. When you do a search, all it does is to a text search of the marker description. It wasn't very sophisticated, but it worked. With no time markers comes no search function.

There were some people who had put in a lot of time to index the Network, and make it easier to find exactly what you wanted. All that was gone when the site was "upgraded" because all the links changed. So people had to start from scratch to index the Network, and now it's all changing again. For anyone interested in anything apart from the current product, the WWE Network has steadily got worse and worse, which didn't seem possible when it started. Only WWE can continue to make chicken shit out of chicken salad and still rake in the dollars.

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WWE will stream a Hall of Fame ceremony on Tuesday 4/6 on Peacock.

The plan is to include the 2020 Hall of Fame class members that did not yet get to have their official inductions due to the COVID-19 pandemic as well as new members for 2021.

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Since WWE and Peacock issued their official press release outlining the migration of the WWE Network onto the NBCU streaming service here in the United States, a great number of readers have asked specific questions about different aspects of WWE programming under the Peacock umbrella.

While some aspects are obviously in flux as the two sides work out the integration, here are some confirmed answers to some of the questions we have received.

Will I be able to pause or rewind live programming such as Wrestlemania and other PPV events?

That feature will not be available at launch on Peacock. However, we are told that the streaming service is working on adding that ability with the hope that it would be roll out this summer around Summerslam. It is absolutely something Peacock has been working on and will continue to prepare to roll out.

How will I find WWE on Peacock? How will I be available to watch everything now?

WWE will be listed as one of the options on Peacock's browse menu. Some content will be free but to watch everything you will need to be a subscriber to Peacock Premium, the same way you would have needed to sub to the WWE Network to see all of their content. There is a discounted deal for WWE Network subscribers who are new to Peacock Premium priced at $9.99 for four months at this link.

Will there be a searchable feature for specific matches or segments?

We are told that feature has been discussed but will not be available at launch. If you want to watch, say Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels from Wrestlemania 25, you will need to pick the show and then fast forward to that specific bout. That may change as they get deeper into the rollout and tweak/evolve Peacock.

Will 205 Live and NXT UK remain air on Peacock?

PWInsider.com has confirmed 205 Live will continue to air with a premiere on Fridays followed by VOD viewing of the episodes on Peacock Premium.

There is no confirmation yet on NXT UK. Stay tuned.

Will everything actually move to the WWE Network?

The plan is 100% yes to this. We are told that WWE is already preparing all of the currently available VOD content on the Network for migration to Peacock, but it will not happen with one flip of a switch and it won't all happen before 4/4 when the currently available version of the WWE Network in the United States departs. Every PPV and every TV show will not be there on launch day, but eventually, it will all be there.

What if Peacock isn't available on my preferred streaming device?

This question has come from Samsung Smart TV owners and Amazon Fire device users. We are told Peacock is still negotiating with different providers but obviously, there's no timetable on if or when they will come to terms nor would anyone in active negotiations advise on such things. Until then, it may be time to invest in one of the cheaper Roku options or prepare to watch on your computer.

What if I want to stay on the current WWE Network?

As of 4/4, that version of the WWE Network will be shut down in the United States. It is not an option as it no longer be functional.

We will update as we get additional confirmations.

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bpickering wrote: Will everything actually move to the WWE Network?

The plan is 100% yes to this. We are told that WWE is already preparing all of the currently available VOD content on the Network for migration to Peacock, but it will not happen with one flip of a switch and it won't all happen before 4/4 when the currently available version of the WWE Network in the United States departs. Every PPV and every TV show will not be there on launch day, but eventually, it will all be there.


They don't know this. They said that the entire WWE library would be online eventually, and we know that's not going to happen. I think it's more likely that 10% of the content makes it to Peacock than 100%.

Also, originally, the migration was going to be automatic, but now you have to actively sign up with Peacock. What percentage will actually do it? For some it will be a good excuse to drop the Network. Plenty of people people only stay with a subscription because they never get round to cancelling, but now WWE is cancelling it for them. I think the conversion will be closer to 50% than 100%.

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Kriss wrote: Also, originally, the migration was going to be automatic, but now you have to actively sign up with Peacock. What percentage will actually do it? For some it will be a good excuse to drop the Network. Plenty of people people only stay with a subscription because they never get round to cancelling, but now WWE is cancelling it for them. I think the conversion will be closer to 50% than 100%.
This is an excellent point.  I think most WWE fans are fans out of habit more than passion at this point.  You make them have to actively do something new, they just won't do it.  And the most complaint these days is that people have to sign up for too many different services.  Even if it's free, people just don't want another one.  I know they're banking on WM being the driver that forces everyone to re-subscribe again by shutting down the Network the day before, but that's going to backfire and lead to more apathy at the only time of the year fans get excited anymore. 

I truly believe we're seeing the end of WWE as we know it.  I don't know if it makes it another 5 years, or even 3, as an independent entity with a McMahon in charge.  I think if Tony Khan's father coughed up the dough, Vince would just unload the whole thing to him at this point as quickly as Vince himself bought WCW.  Which would be better than the likely alternative, which is NBCU buying it all.  He's not trying to compete, he's got one foot out the door.  All the attention to detail and micromanaging seems to be gone.  He's washed his hands of the main distribution channel for his product with barely a thought and is barely promoting the conversion, nor is NBCU for that matter.  He doesn't care anymore.  He's in exit strategy mode.

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I cannot seem to get an answer if there are two levels to Peacock.  
But, if there is only one level, then the WWE is gaining a large amount of new viewership, because it will draw in people like myself, if this is all available with the standard Peacock subscription.  I wonder what the actual deal is with Comcast and NBC? 
If the current Comcast customers who get Peacock will have to upgrade to a Peacock Premium then I think this will cause issues for the network. 

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Papa Voo wrote: I cannot seem to get an answer if there are two levels to Peacock.  
But, if there is only one level, then the WWE is gaining a large amount of new viewership, because it will draw in people like myself, if this is all available with the standard Peacock subscription.  I wonder what the actual deal is with Comcast and NBC? 
If the current Comcast customers who get Peacock will have to upgrade to a Peacock Premium then I think this will cause issues for the network. 
There are three levels.
Peacock Free
Peacock Premium (4.99 plan) with commercials on some programs
Peacock Ad Free (9.99) with no ads, Office bonus material.

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Papa Voo wrote: I cannot seem to get an answer if there are two levels to Peacock.  
But, if there is only one level, then the WWE is gaining a large amount of new viewership, because it will draw in people like myself, if this is all available with the standard Peacock subscription.  I wonder what the actual deal is with Comcast and NBC? 
If the current Comcast customers who get Peacock will have to upgrade to a Peacock Premium then I think this will cause issues for the network. 

There are 3 levels. There’s a free version that basically has a lot of NBC re-runs on it and other stuff, but none of the new shows. Then there’s a $4.99 version which gets you access to everything (including WWE Network) but with ads. There’s also a $9.99 version which is the same but ad-free. 

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This is an excellent point.  I think most WWE fans are fans out of habit more than passion at this point.  You make them have to actively do something new, they just won't do it.  And the most complaint these days is that people have to sign up for too many different services.  Even if it's free, people just don't want another one.  I know they're banking on WM being the driver that forces everyone to re-subscribe again by shutting down the Network the day before, but that's going to backfire and lead to more apathy at the only time of the year fans get excited anymore. 

I truly believe we're seeing the end of WWE as we know it.  I don't know if it makes it another 5 years, or even 3, as an independent entity with a McMahon in charge.  I think if Tony Khan's father coughed up the dough, Vince would just unload the whole thing to him at this point as quickly as Vince himself bought WCW.  Which would be better than the likely alternative, which is NBCU buying it all.  He's not trying to compete, he's got one foot out the door.  All the attention to detail and micromanaging seems to be gone.  He's washed his hands of the main distribution channel for his product with barely a thought and is barely promoting the conversion, nor is NBCU for that matter.  He doesn't care anymore.  He's in exit strategy mode.


I couldn't agree more with the bold stuff.  As I self reflect, I'm watching more out of habit than passion.  With all of the heel vs. heel stuff and 50/50 or non-sensical booking, I kind of surprised the ratings aren't even lower.

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srossi wrote: Papa Voo wrote: I cannot seem to get an answer if there are two levels to Peacock.  
But, if there is only one level, then the WWE is gaining a large amount of new viewership, because it will draw in people like myself, if this is all available with the standard Peacock subscription.  I wonder what the actual deal is with Comcast and NBC? 
If the current Comcast customers who get Peacock will have to upgrade to a Peacock Premium then I think this will cause issues for the network. 

There are 3 levels. There’s a free version that basically has a lot of NBC re-runs on it and other stuff, but none of the new shows. Then there’s a $4.99 version which gets you access to everything (including WWE Network) but with ads. There’s also a $9.99 version which is the same but ad-free. 


The Peacock plan that I have with Comcast does have WWE content to stream.  I do not pay any extra premium. Maybe it will be limited content. 

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Papa Voo wrote: srossi wrote: Papa Voo wrote: I cannot seem to get an answer if there are two levels to Peacock.  
But, if there is only one level, then the WWE is gaining a large amount of new viewership, because it will draw in people like myself, if this is all available with the standard Peacock subscription.  I wonder what the actual deal is with Comcast and NBC? 
If the current Comcast customers who get Peacock will have to upgrade to a Peacock Premium then I think this will cause issues for the network. 

There are 3 levels. There’s a free version that basically has a lot of NBC re-runs on it and other stuff, but none of the new shows. Then there’s a $4.99 version which gets you access to everything (including WWE Network) but with ads. There’s also a $9.99 version which is the same but ad-free. 


The Peacock plan that I have with Comcast does have WWE content to stream.  I do not pay any extra premium. Maybe it will be limited content. 

They moved some WWE stuff over when the deal was first announced. That’s not the WWE Network, which will be on a sub-platform of Peacock. They’re just giving you a preview. 

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PEACOCK LAUNCHES WWE NETWORK TODAY, NXT UK AND LOTS OF OTHER NEW PROGRAMMING MOVES TO PEACOCK
by Mike Johnson @ 12:33 PM on 3/18/2021

NBC Universal streaming service Peacock issued the following press release to PWInsider.com:


WWE Network Launches on Peacock

Welcome, WWE Network.

WWE Network launches on Peacock today. Stream every live WWE pay-per-view event—including WrestleMania—and fan favorite WWE shows.

From the celebration of “Stone Cold” Steve Austin Week to the excitement of WWE FASTLANE 2021, WWE Network is launching on Peacock with tons of new and original programming streaming this week as it moves to its new home.

WWE NETWORK ON PEACOCK

Thursday, March 18: WWE Network content becomes available on Peacock.
Sunday, March 21: WWE Fastlane will be available to stream on both Peacock and WWE Network.
Sunday, April 4: WWE Network sunsets for users in the United States, making Peacock the exclusive home for WWE Network content in the U.S.
Saturday, April 10 and Sunday, April 11: WrestleMania 37 streams exclusively on Peacock in the U.S.
WWE Network, including all PPVs, are available on Peacock Premium for $4.99 — a $5.00/month savings. Peacock is also offering the WWE Universe deeper savings for a limited time — details available at: http://www.PeacockTV.com/sports/WWE

NEW EPISODES & SERIES THIS WEEK
*ALL TIMES IN EST, LIVE

March 18: WCW Saturday Night (1993) 10 new classic episodes
March 18: This Week in WWE
March 18: WWE NXT (3/17/21)
March 18 at 3pm: WWE NXT UK (Live)
March 19?: WWE The Day Of: Elimination Chamber 2021
March 19?: Birth of the Stunner
March 19 at 10pm: ?205 Live (Live)
March 20: WWE Main Event (3/4/21)
March 20: wXw We Love Wrestling #3
March 20: ICW Fight Club 164: “Barred”
March 20: EVOLVE 5
March 20: The Best of WWE: Best of “Stone Cold” Steve Austin
March 20: Talking Smack
March 21: Steve Austin’s Broken Skull Sessions: Randy Orton
March 21: Friday Night Smackdown (2/19/21)
March 21: La Previa
March 21 at 4pm: WWE's The Bump (Live)
March 21 at 6 pm: WWE Fastlane Kickoff (Live)
March 21 at 7pm: WWE Fastlane 2021 (Live)

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Soooo...I use my friend's WWE Network login, since he has no internet right now, he brings his daughter over to watch the PPV's at my house, so I'm following this stuff closely. So as of today, I can't log into the WWE Network. So best I can tell, I'm gonna have to call him and tell him if he wants to watch the PPV's anymore, he's going to have to go in, cancel his WWE Network subscription, then go and set up a Peacock account..

I can see a LOT of people just saying fuck it and not bothering..if Peacock are hoping to bring in those million-plus subscribers I wouldn't hold my breath..

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Married Jo wrote: Soooo...I use my friend's WWE Network login, since he has no internet right now, he brings his daughter over to watch the PPV's at my house, so I'm following this stuff closely. So as of today, I can't log into the WWE Network. So best I can tell, I'm gonna have to call him and tell him if he wants to watch the PPV's anymore, he's going to have to go in, cancel his WWE Network subscription, then go and set up a Peacock account..

I can see a LOT of people just saying fuck it and not bothering..if Peacock are hoping to bring in those million-plus subscribers I wouldn't hold my breath..

I haven't checked mine yet, but we were promised full access until the day before WM without having to switch over.  That would be a huge glitch if they disconnected people early.

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The automated message I got said: "WWE Network is moving, and beginning April 5, it will be exclusively available on Peacock in the U.S. As a result, your current WWE Network subscription will expire at the end of this billing cycle and will not renew."
I logged into my account (via the traditional computer/desktop interface) and under "subscription" it now simply says that my subscription ENDS on March 23 (which was my usual monthly renew date). No other options. So I'm curious how things will work for me in that March 23- April 5 gap. The way I read the email, I'm assuming that I'll be cut-off after March 23.

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Dave Scherer was kind of a moron if it's his job to know stuff like this and he didn't but I did. Still, it gives you insight into how intrusive the commercials will be on Peacock.

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As is my Friday ritual, I watch the most excellent NXT UK program every Friday. I figured I would try watching it on Peacock today since in two weeks, I won't have another choice. My first impression? They have a lot of work to do.

Peacock, of course, made on offer to WWE Network subscribers (and pretty much anyone with a pulse to be honest) that for $4.99 a month, you get Peacock Premium! Five dollars off! And if you signed up early, you got the first four months for $2.50 a month! What a bargain!

Well, I will admit, I didn't read the fine print when I signed up, as I am sure many of you didn't. What I found out today was after the opening segment, where Trent Seven and Jordan Devlin weighed in for their match, I got a 45 second commercial block. No way around it, I just had to watch it. I knew something was up. As it turns out, if we want to eliminate ads, we have to pay The Cock (hey that's catchy, I think it's keeper) five MORE dollars a month. So much for getting The WWE Network cheaper than we were before. Since I wasn't going to upgrade right then and there, I figured how bad could it be?

The answer? VERY!

Whoever put the ads into the programming must be a chimpanzee or trained monkey of some kind. They just decided to pop in commercials at any time, no matter where the program was in its scene. Right in the middle of the main event? COMMERCIAL TIME! The main event was awesome and thank God I was expecting the interruption because if I wasn't, I would have been really ticked off. What kind of knuckle dragging simpleton puts a commercial break right in the middle of a match on a "premium" service? The answer? The Cock!

I have heard from people that bought the No Ads version that when us poor saps on regular premium get ads, they get a black screen for a second or two, then back to the segment. So even ad free isn't perfect. The Cock needs to work on making the content seemless for people that pay for no ads. The few second interruption is unacceptable and no other streaming service does it (that I know of).

As for the PPV on Sunday, well us saps are going to get ads it seems. It appears that the people that pay for Ad free will get a black screen since the show will be live and they can't exactly time warp the show 45 seconds ahead, so that option isn't really much better.

So before you sign up for The Cock, you need to decide if the frustration of ill timed ads is worth the extra five dollars a month.

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Although technology always moves us forward, this sounds way worse, like a major step in the wrong direction.  The last thing WWE or Peacock needs is to irritate anymore viewers lol.

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srossi wrote: Papa Voo wrote: I cannot seem to get an answer if there are two levels to Peacock.  
But, if there is only one level, then the WWE is gaining a large amount of new viewership, because it will draw in people like myself, if this is all available with the standard Peacock subscription.  I wonder what the actual deal is with Comcast and NBC? 
If the current Comcast customers who get Peacock will have to upgrade to a Peacock Premium then I think this will cause issues for the network. 

There are 3 levels. There’s a free version that basically has a lot of NBC re-runs on it and other stuff, but none of the new shows. Then there’s a $4.99 version which gets you access to everything (including WWE Network) but with ads. There’s also a $9.99 version which is the same but ad-free. 


Srossi.....I have basic Peacock and they loaded it full of WWE programming??? 

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I do not see that much old stuff on here.

Now I know why I never subscribed.

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Papa Voo wrote: I do not see that much old stuff on here.

Now I know why I never subscribed.

Are you actually paying the $4.99 now?  And very little has been migrated over yet, so what you’re seeing does not resemble WWE Network of the last 6 years. 

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Nope.

Basic. And they loaded all kinds of WWE programming.

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Papa Voo wrote: Nope.

Basic. And they loaded all kinds of WWE programming.

If you’re not paying you don’t have WWE Network. They’re just previewing stuff in the hopes you’ll subscribe. So of course there’s not much there. They haven’t even uploaded most of the content to the paying customers yet, so they’re definitely not going to give you much for free. 

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It seems to be all the pay per views. Wrestlemanis, Royal Rumbles, Survivor Series, etc. All episodes. There is a whole forum devoted to Stone Cold with many different programs. A forum for their original programs. It is one hell of a sample size. I just wish they older stuff.

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PWInsider:

WWE issued the following statement regarding issues with Peacock's first-ever WWE PPV stream tonight via social media

Any issues occurring with tonight’s broadcast of #WWEFastlane will be addressed in the future.

There were a number of different complaints online about tonight's stream, ranging from the inability to start late and rewind the live stream (each of which were known in advance as not being available to Peacock users) to the quality of the Peacock stream compared to the norm on WWE Network and the stream even being several minutes behind the WWE Network stream of the show for some users.

As PWInsider.com has previously reported, Peacock has advised they expect to have several options that were available to WWE Network subscribers that are not yet functional for Peacock subscribers by Summerslam this August.

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I got an e-mail from Peacock today telling me to stream Fastlane, so they're on it.  Nothing before it aired live.  This is such a disaster and they don't have the slightest idea about wrestling.

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Seen on FB Peacock has edited the Piper-Brown Match from Wrestlemania 6. Guessing since Piper has a Half black face.

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bpickering wrote: Seen on FB Peacock has edited the Piper-Brown Match from Wrestlemania 6. Guessing since Piper has a Half black face.
This is going to be a huge problem.  Once they find out half the shit that happened in wrestling before 2006 or so, there goes the entire library.  WWE Network is dead.

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Oh gosh, watch the floodgates open now. Anything with Haiti Kid or the midgets will be zapped soon. Piper shaving Haiti before WM2. How many "hanging" incidents have there been? Muraco hung Steamboat on Championship Wrestling, but that appeared on the Steamboat documentary and a couple of old CHVs. Hansen hung Luger with the bullrope on one of the Clashes or Halloween Havoc 90. Any reference by Jesse Ventura to "Buckwheat" or "Chico". Terry Funk's branding iron. Bossman beating the shit out of people (black jobbers) with his nightstick, because, you know. This could have no end.

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I signed up for a free trial for Peacock the other day, but as I already read, the Network is a hot mess at the moment so I canceled and I'll wait a while.
Hopefully pay-per-views get a year added to the name,  not season. And  a good fast forward option.
Eventually there will be a list of stuff removed, back in the old days people weren't happy because the original music was replaced lol.

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Over the last day, a number of readers have sent word that they have found edits of older WWE material for shows that have been added to Peacock's streaming service.

The 4/1/90 Wrestlemania 6 event has seen Roddy Piper vs. Bad News Brown and a Piper backstage promo removed from the event. This was the bout where Piper was painted half-black. The edit appears to be why Wrestlemania VI was the last of the flagship WWE PPVs to be added to Peacock.

The 11/27/05 Survivor Series event has seen the infamous vignette where Mr. McMahon drops the "n" word to Booker T in a conversational way, leading to Booker saying, "Tell me I didn't just hear that" when McMahon walks off, also removed.

In each case, it's material that was certainly questionable at the time and has certainly not aged well since. None of it falls under good taste when viewed in 2021. The same material did appear on the WWE Network versions of those shows.

Obviously, Peacock will be removing anything that goes against their community standards and practices going forward, so it should be interesting to see Attitude Era, ECW, territory-era content that pushes the envelope will be handled. One would think we'll see additional edits of older material as it begins to materialize on Peacock.

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Before we were married, the first time my wife ever walked in while I was watching wrestling was the Raw around 2001 when Vince had Trish in the ring on all fours, while wearing lingerie, making her bark like a dog. That's a fun memory. Guessing that one doesn't age too well either.

There's probably a hundred examples of things that could be cut under the guise of "2021".

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How about every time Ric Flair calls somebody "boy" in his promos on TBS?

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Blazer wrote: Before we were married, the first time my wife ever walked in while I was watching wrestling was the Raw around 2001 when Vince had Trish in the ring on all fours, while wearing lingerie, making her bark like a dog. That's a fun memory. Guessing that one doesn't age too well either.

There's probably a hundred examples of things that could be cut under the guise of "2021".

That one didn't age too well the next day either.  It was immediately used against Vince by Bob Costas, Phil Mushnick, and all his other enemies in the media. 

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Superstar wrote: How about every time Ric Flair calls somebody "boy" in his promos on TBS?I don't see that to be racist. Boy is an insult to any man in a fight. And Flair was rarely paired with an African American babyface. You're reaching here. 

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Off the top of my head...

John Cena's homophobic raps
DX blacking-up as the Nation
Booker T is kicked out of the nWo because he's black
Jerry Lawler asks Goldust if he's queer
Katie Vick
Vince McMahon goes to church and cuts a promo on God
JBL goes to the border to catch illegal immigrants

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martini wrote: Superstar wrote: How about every time Ric Flair calls somebody "boy" in his promos on TBS?I don't see that to be racist. Boy is an insult to any man in a fight. And Flair was rarely paired with an African American babyface. You're reaching here.
He very clearly directed it to Tony Atlas and others as a obvious racial insult.  Frequently. 

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srossi wrote: martini wrote: Superstar wrote: How about every time Ric Flair calls somebody "boy" in his promos on TBS?I don't see that to be racist. Boy is an insult to any man in a fight. And Flair was rarely paired with an African American babyface. You're reaching here.
He very clearly directed it to Tony Atlas and others as a obvious racial insult.  Frequently. 
Superstar wasn't specific in his gripe. Flair saying this to Sting is just an insult. If he did to Atlas, I could see it being construed as a racial thing. 

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In 1992 WCW, Tony Atlas makes some comments to Ron Simmons that should probably be labeled with the disclaimer of: "this content was presented in its original format and may contain cultural references that are out-dated or offensive".

There's a lot of wrestling stuff you could label as "offensive" or racist. One thing that honestly raised my eyebrows, in years past, was on NXT when Mauro Ranallo would turn to Percy Watson and say: "Percy, my man, what do you know about the Street Profits?!"

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Papa Voo wrote: It seems to be all the pay per views. Wrestlemanis, Royal Rumbles, Survivor Series, etc. All episodes. There is a whole forum devoted to Stone Cold with many different programs. A forum for their original programs. It is one hell of a sample size. I just wish they older stuff.
I just signed up for Peacock. If you get to Peacock registration from the WWE Network, you can then sign up for $9.99 for 4 months, as others have said here. (It becomes $4.99 per month after the trial).
Lots of older stuff not yet migrated. No sign of "WWE Vault" yet.

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martini wrote: Superstar wrote: How about every time Ric Flair calls somebody "boy" in his promos on TBS?I don't see that to be racist. Boy is an insult to any man in a fight. And Flair was rarely paired with an African American babyface. You're reaching here. Flair on TBS was the first thing that popped into my head, because I've heard him calling minorities "boy" for years, yet I'm reaching?  Jesus Christ, I couldn't even care less because I won't be paying a penny for WWE product, but if I'm reaching, talk to me in a couple years if they ever decide to put the old shit on there and then tell me I reached.  And if you really, REALLY thought I was talking about the times he called Sting "boy", maybe you need to get your head out of your ass.  There is nothing at all bad about him calling Sting "boy", and we all know that.  I didn't think I would have to explain that.  I remember Harley calling Ron Simmons "Boy" while managing Vader on WCW Saturday Night as well.  And I think I remember Ole calling the skinny jobber that brought out JYD in '90 "boy" as well.  I can't remember that kids name but he was "shuckin' and jivin'" which Ole probably told him to do before going on TV. 

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In the flair/Atlas thing flair nudges Atlas's chin and Says "look at me when I am talking to you boy". It's racist. Then tells him he shouldn't be wearing a "honky shirt". 

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In time you might see those warning statements when The Samoans or Kamala come on. While wrestling fans loved those gimmicks they are painfully out of step with today.

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Superstar wrote: Spatulapup wrote: In time you might see those warning statements when The Samoans or Kamala come on. While wrestling fans loved those gimmicks they are painfully out of step with today.C'mon man - we all know the truth as wrestling fans that Samoans have the hardest heads in the world.  It's not a stereotype, I've seen them knock white guys unconscious with their headbutts.  And if you headbutt them, it is totally ineffective.  And as far as Kamala goes, I've never met anybody from Uganda, or Mississippi, so who are they to tell us that his gimmick was questionable?  And was it a gimmick?  I mean, as an untrained jungle savage, of course he didn't know you had to turn the guy onto his back for the 3 count.  That's to be expected.

If Akeem wants to self-identify as an African-American, who are you to tell him he isn't?

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Article from The Hollywood Reporter.

The important part: "According to sources familiar with the situation, the NBCUniversal-owned streaming service is reviewing all 17,000 hours of WWE content to ensure it aligns with Peacock's standards and practices. WWE is also being made aware of any edits."

R.I.P. to the sanity of the unpaid interns on this project.

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If Akeem wants to self-identify as an African-American, who are you to tell him he isn't?

He was stunning and brave, a trailblazer ahead of his time.  Sadly, Akeem is still excluded from the WWE HOF due to transracial prejudice, the same factor that keeps Rachel Dolezal out of the celebrity wing.  Damn you Vince!

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Kriss wrote: Article from The Hollywood Reporter.

The important part: "According to sources familiar with the situation, the NBCUniversal-owned streaming service is reviewing all 17,000 hours of WWE content to ensure it aligns with Peacock's standards and practices. WWE is also being made aware of any edits."

R.I.P. to the sanity of the unpaid interns on this project.

LOL!  Seriously, how do you even begin that project.  
Does Shaska Whatley make the cut?

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The important part: "According to sources familiar with the situation, the NBCUniversal-owned streaming service is reviewing all 17,000 hours of WWE content to ensure it aligns with Peacock's standards and practices. WWE is also being made aware of any edits."

R.I.P. to the sanity of the unpaid interns on this project.

LOL!  Seriously, how do you even begin that project.  
Does Shaska Whatley make the cut?

You hire someone with a 6 Masters degrees in Gender Studies, African History, and Fine Art who has $1.5 million in student debt and you pay them $12/hr. to watch bra and panty matches 8 hours a day. 

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I imagine some people are going to make a fair amount of money in the upcoming years selling unedited freebird footage.

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Kriss wrote: Article from The Hollywood Reporter.

The important part: "According to sources familiar with the situation, the NBCUniversal-owned streaming service is reviewing all 17,000 hours of WWE content to ensure it aligns with Peacock's standards and practices. WWE is also being made aware of any edits."

R.I.P. to the sanity of the unpaid interns on this project.
There goes Saba Simba.
And the entire Attitude era. 

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I imagine some people are going to make a fair amount of money in the upcoming years selling unedited freebird footage.

Vince decided a long time ago that the market really wasn't there for the old-old stuff. Why he kept buying it after that realization was more to just own it all, I'm guessing.
I expect very little if any at all more old-old stuff to see the light of day now, even less than I did before when WWE was in control of releasing that stuff.

The old argument of "Is the WWE the best owners for all the territory footage" is kind of a draw at the end of the day.
The footage is being properly stored now (a definite plus) and we did get some great stuff (AWA House shows, Last Battle of Atlanta, all the other Hidden Gem footage, for example)...but stuff we know the WWE had and hasn't put out there will be basically lost to us indefinitely/forever, as I don't see Peacock rushing to convert old footage that they will likely have to scrub in a lot of parts on top of the conversion costs.

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Awful Announcing has reported that Vince dropping the N bomb in a segment with Booker T. on Raw is the 2nd known casualty of Peacock's editing. How did they not do that one first?

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In the end some media might be only available in good quality because it aired in other countries where music rights aren't an issue for whatever reason.

Imagine a Chinese version of Wonder Years. (Read this in a Borat voice)
Episode 1: Winnies brother Brian is sent to Vietnam. There he defects from evil capitalist scumbag country USA to the great Communist country North Vietnam. But Winnie and everybody on the block are sad because only Brian was able to escape imperialist hellhole USA

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MW Tapes is finally sticking it to Vince on his turms.

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Kriss wrote: Off the top of my head...

John Cena's homophobic raps
DX blacking-up as the Nation
Booker T is kicked out of the nWo because he's black
Jerry Lawler asks Goldust if he's queer
Katie Vick
Vince McMahon goes to church and cuts a promo on God
JBL goes to the border to catch illegal immigrants

This one was removed yesterday

Footage of the NBC unpaid interns going through 17,000 hours of wrestling 


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I'm trying to finish up an old NWA Pro set I picked up a couple of years ago.  The audio's not perfect.  There are tracking lines at the bottom on some episodes.  The commercials are cut out, but the original recorder also forgot to unpause sometimes, so there are bits and pieces missing on some episodes.
That said, at this point, I'm ok with this.  There was a time when pristine video quality was important, but with everything going on, we might as well enjoy what's archived right now in the trading market and just be happy with it.  

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I hope it doesn't take the interns too long to watch Mid-South to see what needs scrubbing, I was making my way through 1984 before the Peacock switch.

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I think it would be quicker if they scrubbed anything that Bill Watts was ever involved in. His xenophobia on commentary is pretty persistent and will cause PTSD if a 20-year old is forced to listen to 60 hours of it. 

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Was this as awesome as it sounds?

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Was this as awesome as it sounds?



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I think it would be quicker if they scrubbed anything that Bill Watts was ever involved in. His xenophobia on commentary is pretty persistent and will cause PTSD if a 20-year old is forced to listen to 60 hours of it. 

I was watching a mid south episode and Jim Duggan said women are best seen and not heard. And he was a good guy!!! This wasn't a heel talking.  lol

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I think it would be quicker if they scrubbed anything that Bill Watts was ever involved in. His xenophobia on commentary is pretty persistent and will cause PTSD if a 20-year old is forced to listen to 60 hours of it. 

I was watching a mid south episode and Jim Duggan said women are best seen and not heard. And he was a good guy!!! This wasn't a heel talking.  lol

Shut up hooooooooooooo!!!

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Was this as awesome as it sounds?



First time I've seen this.  I'm surprised they got away with this in 2004.

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First time I've seen this.  I'm surprised they got away with this in 2004.

Didn’t watch the clip but going from memory, I believe our old friend Rudy Boy Gonzalez played an illegal here (or a different similar one). As far as being PC is concerned, he was a heel and it fit his character perfectly and fit his feuds with Eddy and Rey perfectly. I don’t know why anyone would have a problem with it, aside from the fact that people have a problem with everything. 

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So about 2:15pm today (EST) I'm watching Saturday Night's Main Event and it cuts off mid-show.  It looks like I can't get back in, and it is directing me to Peacock.  (The show has the lock icon on it now on the original Network page for me).  Of course, what I'm watching didn't move over.  Peacock also insists that I automatically have Peacock Premium since I'm an Xfinity customer, and it won't allow me to use the promo code to pay $2.50 a month for the first 4 months.  It acts like I already have access to everything for free as an Xfinity customer, but that can't be right.  I kind of wish WWE Network stayed available until midnight instead of cutting off in the middle of the afternoon.  

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It's true, it's damn true.

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So far Peacock sucks. I just checked to see what other old things were added, and I see Starrcade 94 that I don't remember being on before.

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So apparently you get the discounted rate of $9.99 for 4 months no matter what now. Their promo code of PEACOCKMANIA doesn’t work and the deal is automatic, so what was the point of advertising the promo code every week for 2 months? Then I tried to sign up and I already had an account from the free version so it didn’t let me. Then I had to upgrade my account instead and the autofill inexplicably didn’t work. So after filling in everything again they finally took my money. And the platform sucks. My wife is using the account to watch the reboot of “Saved By the Bell” right now so it’s clearly money well spent.

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srossi wrote: So apparently you get the discounted rate of $9.99 for 4 months no matter what now. Their promo code of PEACOCKMANIA doesn’t work and the deal is automatic, so what was the point of advertising the promo code every week for 2 months? Then I tried to sign up and I already had an account from the free version so it didn’t let me. Then I had to upgrade my account instead and the autofill inexplicably didn’t work. So after filling in everything again they finally took my money. And the platform sucks. My wife is using the account to watch the reboot of “Saved By the Bell” right now so it’s clearly money well spent.
So they’ve turned “Saved By the Bell” into a class warfare sitcom where all the poor minorities are bused to Bayside and the son of Zach Morris is the spoiled, white rich kid whose love interest Kelly character is transgender. You can’t make this shit up. One of the big “jokes” is A.C. trying to give a pep talk a black football player and the kid saying, “At least it’s not a white savior thing because you’re Mexican.”  It might be the most obnoxiously woke show in the history of television. 

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The old Network shut down on me mid show at about 2:15 EST Saturday.  I was watching SNME and all of the sudden it quit.  When I went back in to start the program again, it had the little red lock icon and a message to go to Peacock.  The couple of programs that didn't have the lock icon were the ones that were also on Peacock.  Like you said, it looks all gone now. 

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I had a very similar problem.  Peacock insists that I automatically have Peacock Premium since I'm an Xfinity customer, and it won't allow me to use the promo code to pay $2.50 a month for the first 4 months.  It acts like I already have access to everything for free as an Xfinity customer, but that can't be right.

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100% agreed.  I can't find a single thing on there that I want to watch.  I really hope they add at least some of the old stuff.

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I had a very similar problem.  Peacock insists that I automatically have Peacock Premium since I'm an Xfinity customer, and it won't allow me to use the promo code to pay $2.50 a month for the first 4 months.  It acts like I already have access to everything for free as an Xfinity customer, but that can't be right.



This is what I have been saying. 

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I had a very similar problem.  Peacock insists that I automatically have Peacock Premium since I'm an Xfinity customer, and it won't allow me to use the promo code to pay $2.50 a month for the first 4 months.  It acts like I already have access to everything for free as an Xfinity customer, but that can't be right.


I think Xfinity is right. They have sent numerous e-mails stating that if you are an Xfinity customer (even if you only have Internet service) then you get Peacock Premium for free. I think that you might need the Xfinity Flex device to access it though. The Flex device should also be free, you just need to order it from Xfinity.

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More has been added, I'm currently going through Raw starting in 1996. And so far none of the Golddust and Razor stuff has been edited.

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Superstar wrote: sportatorium roach wrote: More has been added, I'm currently going through Raw starting in 1996. And so far none of the Golddust and Razor stuff has been edited.Is that the footage where Dustin was being a bit "overzealous" in his portrayal of Goldust?  As in, he was basically dry humping Hall in every sequence?  I remember that time.
Yes, very overzealous is the right word. Also, it's been years since I watched that era of Raw and the PPVs, but I like the weird mix of new generation cartoon stuff and early attitude era.  I think I'll continue to watch, unless they all the sudden put up some World Wide Wrestling episodes from the second half of the '80s lol.

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I got an email yesterday saying I’m getting $0.34 back. Feels just like I’m getting an extra stimulus check. 

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Peacock emailed me that today is the last day to sign up for 4 months for $9.99. The deal changed so many times and eventually became available to everyone without a password, but it’s finally ending. The problem is you get stuck with commercials for 4 months if you take this deal.

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Yup. All the way back to Starrcade 83 - listed as Season 1, Episode 1. Starts right before the bell for Match 1 (Rufus R. Jones & Bugsy McGraw vs The Assassins)
Pretty sure that's the earliest content right now. Although it appears they are adding 80's NWA stuff (Starrcade, Great American Bash). Don't think they were there before (although, as stated, the menus are frustrating as hell to navigate.)
EDIT: They don't seem to editing for blood. In match 2, Scott McGhee is bleeding like a stuck pig, and it's not even digitized.

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"Their management incentive plan (MIP) payouts (between 50-100% of salary) are based on a point system on the following personal and company-wide performance metrics: 40% strategic objectives (viewership with a benchmark of certain key TV ratings); 40% for the next iteration of WWE Network (acquiring a domestic network license); 10% for sponsorship business opportunities; and 10% for brand strength measurements (increasing WWE ratings among sports fans)."

So 40% of management bonus was for "acquiring a domestic network license" which means that selling the WWE Network was a stated objective for 2020.

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Kriss wrote: WWE released their SEC filings yesterday. Of interest was this:

"Their management incentive plan (MIP) payouts (between 50-100% of salary) are based on a point system on the following personal and company-wide performance metrics: 40% strategic objectives (viewership with a benchmark of certain key TV ratings); 40% for the next iteration of WWE Network (acquiring a domestic network license); 10% for sponsorship business opportunities; and 10% for brand strength measurements (increasing WWE ratings among sports fans)."

So 40% of management bonus was for "acquiring a domestic network license" which means that selling the WWE Network was a stated objective for 2020.

I vaguely remember this being talked about a year or two ago.  That's been an incentive for a while.

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I had a very similar problem.  Peacock insists that I automatically have Peacock Premium since I'm an Xfinity customer, and it won't allow me to use the promo code to pay $2.50 a month for the first 4 months.  It acts like I already have access to everything for free as an Xfinity customer, but that can't be right.


I think Xfinity is right. They have sent numerous e-mails stating that if you are an Xfinity customer (even if you only have Internet service) then you get Peacock Premium for free. I think that you might need the Xfinity Flex device to access it though. The Flex device should also be free, you just need to order it from Xfinity.

I finally got around to ordering the Xfinity Flex device. I have Xfinity for Internet but not for cable TV so the Flex device was free and also came with a free Peacock Premium subscription. I installed the Flex device but it would glitch every 3-5 seconds so I uninstalled it. I was able to install the Peacock app on my Roku TV and then log into the free Peacock Premium account using the username that had been set up on the Flex device (Xfinity didn't tell me what the password was for the Peacock subscription but I was able to change it using the PeacockTV website). So now I can watch WWE on Peacock (and other Peacock Premium programs) using my Roku TV at no additional charge.

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I had a very similar problem.  Peacock insists that I automatically have Peacock Premium since I'm an Xfinity customer, and it won't allow me to use the promo code to pay $2.50 a month for the first 4 months.  It acts like I already have access to everything for free as an Xfinity customer, but that can't be right.


I think Xfinity is right. They have sent numerous e-mails stating that if you are an Xfinity customer (even if you only have Internet service) then you get Peacock Premium for free. I think that you might need the Xfinity Flex device to access it though. The Flex device should also be free, you just need to order it from Xfinity.

I finally got around to ordering the Xfinity Flex device. I have Xfinity for Internet but not for cable TV so the Flex device was free and also came with a free Peacock Premium subscription. I installed the Flex device but it would glitch every 3-5 seconds so I uninstalled it. I was able to install the Peacock app on my Roku TV and then log into the free Peacock Premium account using the username that had been set up on the Flex device (Xfinity didn't tell me what the password was for the Peacock subscription but I was able to change it using the PeacockTV website). So now I can watch WWE on Peacock (and other Peacock Premium programs) using my Roku TV at no additional charge.

Nice.  Yeah, it happens to be available on this Vizio tv I got last year.  I noticed the picture quality frequently blurred when I was watching Wrestlemania, but hey, it's free.

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Yeah that's a great sign.

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Not yet, but I'm checking everyday for stuff like that.

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sportatorium roach wrote: Nice to see the first season of Wrestling Challenge is back up since I just started on it before the change over.

Missing Ep 1 for some reason. Looking at the rundown, don't see any obvious reason why.
No editing that I can tell of the Kamala match in Ep 2. He's introduced as "The Ugandan Headhunter".
Johnny V even refers to him as "a go-go dancer from Harlem". 

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Assuming the original programming division will still come up with series style content, how about just dealing with the 800 lb. elephant proactively. If they truly want to be something other than what pro wrestling was, they should find the material and give it the context of what it was, in its own introspective series, rather than dealing with every individual perceived offense taken. Whether the industry evolves or devolves from there, owning the narrative of the history might be the only thing left worth keeping.

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I am surprised that Chris Benoit hasn't been edited out of all of the footage. I was watching Slamboree 1993 and 2 Cold Scorpio does a flippy move off the top rope that results in Scorpio's ass crushing Benoit's face and head. Seeing that move and knowing the concussion issues that Benoit had later in life was disturbing.

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Big Garea Fan wrote: I am surprised that Chris Benoit hasn't been edited out of all of the footage. I was watching Slamboree 1993 and 2 Cold Scorpio does a flippy move off the top rope that results in Scorpio's ass crushing Benoit's face and head. Seeing that move and knowing the concussion issues that Benoit had later in life was disturbing.

Benoit was just everywhere in WWE, WCW, and ECW between 1993-2005.  He was prolific, even when he wasn't necessarily getting a big push.  He would always have a great 20-minute match somewhere on every show.  And then there's run-ins and other stuff.  If you really edited him out of all footage, you might as well just give up on 2 decades of WWE's library and toss it in the garbage. 

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Missing Ep 1 for some reason.

Missing episodes 1 and 2 for some reason.  

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That's odd about missing the first two episodes of Challenge. I'm guessing it's just incompetence.While waiting on more old wrestling  to be added, I'm trying to get some value out of it so I'm watching some old Saturday Night Lives. They are heavily edited from what I've read. I understand music would be a problem, I'm expecting anything considered offensive to be removed as well. But I'm seeing that random things have been removed, I don't know how correct that is but I'm guessing it is. Because of my age I'm watching 1986 through the early 90s now. I'm probably missing lots of good Jan Hooks sketches. Peacock is awful indeed.

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Boz1515 wrote: glc wrote: sportatorium roach wrote: Nice to see the first season of Wrestling Challenge is back up since I just started on it before the change over.

Missing Ep 1 for some reason.

Missing episodes 1 and 2 for some reason.  
Hmmm. It was there yesterday. I watched it. Bit it's gone now.

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Missing Ep 1 for some reason.

Missing episodes 1 and 2 for some reason.  
Hmmm. It was there yesterday. I watched it. Bit it's gone now.

Yeah, and I can't figure out why they pulled them specifically.

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sportatorium roach wrote: That's odd about missing the first two episodes of Challenge. I'm guessing it's just incompetence.While waiting on more old wrestling  to be added, I'm trying to get some value out of it so I'm watching some old Saturday Night Lives. They are heavily edited from what I've read. I understand music would be a problem, I'm expecting anything considered offensive to be removed as well. But I'm seeing that random things have been removed, I don't know how correct that is but I'm guessing it is. Because of my age I'm watching 1986 through the early 90s now. I'm probably missing lots of good Jan Hooks sketches. Peacock is awful indeed.

It's not just Peacock. A lot of classic shows across all platforms are edited these days, either for time or music rights or some other reason. For example, the episodes of the Johnny Carson Tonight Show that are out there (either on the various streaming sites or Antenna TV) are heavily edited, too. Almost all musical performances are gone (that's to be expected), but also some guests. I'm guessing maybe a permissions issue of some sort.

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Maybe if they pulled an episode of Challenge, it's because they're editing something then. I remember the first time I got on Peacock, and WrestleMania 6 was missing and of course now we know why.

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So Chris Jericho is with AEW but the very first section listed on the WWE on Peacock is  "For all of the Jerichoholics" that lists the Jericho/Austin interiew and a number of Jericho matches from his time in the WWE. Does WWE have an interest in AEW? Why are they giving AEW's top guy a spotlight on their network?

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Big Garea Fan wrote: So Chris Jericho is with AEW but the very first section listed on the WWE on Peacock is  "For all of the Jerichoholics" that lists the Jericho/Austin interiew and a number of Jericho matches from his time in the WWE. Does WWE have an interest in AEW? Why are they giving AEW's top guy a spotlight on their network?

It's not their network any more.

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Kriss wrote: Big Garea Fan wrote: So Chris Jericho is with AEW but the very first section listed on the WWE on Peacock is  "For all of the Jerichoholics" that lists the Jericho/Austin interiew and a number of Jericho matches from his time in the WWE. Does WWE have an interest in AEW? Why are they giving AEW's top guy a spotlight on their network?

It's not their network any more.
Ok, I get that part. Does NBC has some sort of affiliation with TNT where it would want people to watch AEW on TNT?

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Big Garea Fan wrote: Kriss wrote: Big Garea Fan wrote: So Chris Jericho is with AEW but the very first section listed on the WWE on Peacock is  "For all of the Jerichoholics" that lists the Jericho/Austin interiew and a number of Jericho matches from his time in the WWE. Does WWE have an interest in AEW? Why are they giving AEW's top guy a spotlight on their network?

It's not their network any more.
Ok, I get that part. Does NBC has some sort of affiliation with TNT where it would want people to watch AEW on TNT?

Do they mention Dynamite or TNT at all? I think it's just that the interview was popular and people are probably searching for Chris Jericho, so they make it easier so they can get more eyeballs on the ads.

Jericho has been a special case for a number of years now. If it was Kenny Omega, that would be different.

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Kriss wrote: Big Garea Fan wrote: Kriss wrote: Big Garea Fan wrote: So Chris Jericho is with AEW but the very first section listed on the WWE on Peacock is  "For all of the Jerichoholics" that lists the Jericho/Austin interiew and a number of Jericho matches from his time in the WWE. Does WWE have an interest in AEW? Why are they giving AEW's top guy a spotlight on their network?

It's not their network any more.
Ok, I get that part. Does NBC has some sort of affiliation with TNT where it would want people to watch AEW on TNT?

Do they mention Dynamite or TNT at all? I think it's just that the interview was popular and people are probably searching for Chris Jericho, so they make it easier so they can get more eyeballs on the ads.

Jericho has been a special case for a number of years now. If it was Kenny Omega, that would be different.

They did highlight a few Kenny Omega matches in the “Hidden Gems” section when they were doing that, but that was before Dynamite because direct competition. But I don’t think it’s fair to say “It’s not their network anymore”.  NBC isn’t creating a section on there about “Jerichoholics” on their own, nor have they ever heard that word. WWE is just trying to generate as much interest as possible in the platform during this transition. Peacock’s subscriptions increasing is a lot more important to them now than anything else.

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I think WWE are probably incentivised to get as much content watched as possible to get as many people as possible watching ads. So if people this week are interested in Chris Jericho, then they will push Jericho content. So in that respect, it's not their network. They are serving a higher master now.

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According to Meltzer, though... WWE are crediting the big number that AEW did to the Austin interview, which talked very positively about AEW. McMahon realises that allowing the interview was a big mistake and AEW is now seen as real competition.

If that big number was boosted by a lot of new fans coming over from WWE, they saw a great show.

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Kriss wrote: According to Meltzer, though... WWE are crediting the big number that AEW did to the Austin interview, which talked very positively about AEW. McMahon realises that allowing the interview was a big mistake and AEW is now seen as real competition.

If that big number was boosted by a lot of new fans coming over from WWE, they saw a great show.

I think it's much more likely that they scored a big number because if was the first week unopposed and new viewers wanted to give it a shot.  Even with DVRs, 4 hours of wrestling on in one night is a lot and most people probably were making a choice before.  Chris Jericho's 5 minutes of AEW talk on a 2 hour show revolving around his WWE career is not going to make a huge difference.  Everyone knows who Jericho is and knew he was in AEW before.

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WWF Superstars from early 1994 has been added, I remember watching it at the time and there's some good stuff. Hopefully they keep adding episodes because I enjoyed the Owen and Bret feud.

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They had some '92 and '93 episodes on the Network. I don't remember any '94 episodes...so are these "new"?

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Erick Von Erich wrote: They had some '92 and '93 episodes on the Network. I don't remember any '94 episodes...so are these "new"?Yes, new and first episode available is January 15th. So it starts off with season 3 episode 3. Odd, like Challenge it's missing the first two episodes.

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Was it something Ernie Ladd or Johnny Valiant said? :) I guess they were on the first three eps.

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Episode 3 has them both I think and that one was always there.  Perhaps one of the Peacock interns was watching the first two episodes and heard Ernie Ladd say "without a shadow of a doubt" 900 times and threw up all over the place, preventing him from uploading them originally.

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The rain delay has been edited from this year's WM. The show now goes straight from Vince to the song to the opening match. No unscripted promos and no Samoa Joe in a poncho. Makes sense, I guess, but they should keep the original into as a bonus feature somewhere (they probably won't).

What's a bit stranger is they also edited out Mandy Rose's slip on the entrance ramp, because they have turned that into an angle now.

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Kriss wrote: The rain delay has been edited from this year's WM. The show now goes straight from Vince to the song to the opening match. No unscripted promos and no Samoa Joe in a poncho. Makes sense, I guess, but they should keep the original into as a bonus feature somewhere (they probably won't).

What's a bit stranger is they also edited out Mandy Rose's slip on the entrance ramp, because they have turned that into an angle now.

Stupid.  Those rain delay promos were the best promos WWE has delivered in 2 decades.

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WWE Network News is reporting the following dates for upcoming coming to WWE Network for international viewers and Peacock in the US in May:

May 2nd – WWE Untold: Two Dudes With Attitudes.
May 9th – WWE Chronicle: Damian Priest.
May 11th – The Best of WWE: Wrestlemania Rematches.
May 16th – WWE Icons: Rob Van Dam.
May 17th – WWE Wrestling Challenge.
May 18th – The Best of WWE: Rob Van Dam.

This of course shows that the May 2021 Classic Content Drop looks to be more WWF Wrestling Challenge.

WWE officially announced the Untold with Two Dudes with Attitudes featuring Shawn Michaels and Kevin Nash on May 2

The long-delayed Damian Priest-WWE Chronicle, which was originally scheduled to be released back in March in conjunction with Fastlane, will now see a May 9 release.

There will be double RVD with the Icons documentary on May 16 with a compilation on the former WWE Champion on May 18.

This is not the only content being released next month. But the only confirmed so far.

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Peacock does not give a rat damn about the old footage. Dont hold your breatth for any of that to ever be on there.   And as long as WWE is getting that $$$ they could care less.

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It was a really good documentary with zero HHH.  No Hall or X-Pac for that matter either.  A lot of that shit has been told to death, so it was good to see a really focused piece on just the HBK-Diesel relationship.  I had forgotten some of it.  There's also tremendous behind-the-scenes footage of Diesel after beating Backlund for the title at MSG.  It's like stepping into a time warp with Albano, Strongbow, Skaalnad and all the old-timers from the '70s still hanging around and congratulating him.  Also King Kong Bundy of all people with some screen time to tell Diesel he deserved it. 

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10 total were uploaded today, they finished up 1986 and the first 6 from 1987. 

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10 total were uploaded today, they finished up 1986 and the first 6 from 1987. 

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A few seasons of ECW TV have recently been put up. Nice to see, because I was up to late 1994 on the old Network.

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The Prime Times are back.

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It looks like Saturday Night's Main Event and The Big Event have been added.  I just watched The Big Event and it doesn't appear to me that any of the music was edited.

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So things are getting a bit concerning now. After pulling the Lex Luger Icons show set to premier on July 4, WWE Network has pulled the Kevin Nash Broken Skull Sessions that was set to premier today as part of "NWO Week". As of yesterday, it was still being advertised to drop today. Someone changed their mind last night.  The whole company seems like it's falling apart and this transition to Peacock has been nothing but a disaster. I'm beginning to wonder why I subscribe anymore.

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srossi wrote: So things are getting a bit concerning now. After pulling the Lex Luger Icons show set to premier on July 4, WWE Network has pulled the Kevin Nash Broken Skull Sessions that was set to premier today as part of "NWO Week". As of yesterday, it was still being advertised to drop today. Someone changed their mind last night.  The whole company seems like it's falling apart and this transition to Peacock has been nothing but a disaster. I'm beginning to wonder why I subscribe anymore.
Maybe they want to put this stuff on television and get some advertising revenue from it before it goes on Peacock.

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srossi wrote: So things are getting a bit concerning now. After pulling the Lex Luger Icons show set to premier on July 4, WWE Network has pulled the Kevin Nash Broken Skull Sessions that was set to premier today as part of "NWO Week". As of yesterday, it was still being advertised to drop today. Someone changed their mind last night.  The whole company seems like it's falling apart and this transition to Peacock has been nothing but a disaster. I'm beginning to wonder why I subscribe anymore.
Pulling stuff that has been advertised is bush league.  I'm guessing Nash said something that would have offended somebody and additional editing is going to have to take place.

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I think Peacock bought the service for one reason and one reason only - the live PPVs. Live sports is the only thing that really can push the needle further forward in the streaming wars. Everybody has originals, blockbuster movies, and classic TV series. Peacock wanted as many opportunities at live sports as they could get, and WWE was there for the picking. Shit, it wouldn't stun me in the least if Time Warner or whatever they are calling themselves these days used AEW to push HBO Max further over the next couple of years. All they'd have to do is buy Tony Khan out of the PPV market and send those to HBO Max (and probably run at least 6-8 per year).

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There is a Luger section up now so hoping his icons happens late next month at the latest. Also want to see the Vladimir documentary.

It's horrible scrolling through the full list of shows because of how they're alphabetized and every event is listed, there are no main sections to click on to then get the full list of shows.
Looks like the main things still needed to show up are NWA Saturday Night, Mid-South and Mid-Atlantic.

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I'm guessing most of the old Network stuff is now on Peacock.
Mid-Atlantic and WWWF All Star has arrived which is cool because I was in the middle of them before the switch over.

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sportatorium roach wrote: I'm guessing most of the old Network stuff is now on Peacock.
Mid-Atlantic and WWWF All Star has arrived which is cool because I was in the middle of them before the switch over.

WWE has said 100% of the content from the old Network is expected to be migrated by Summerslam. 



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