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 Posted: Tue Mar 2nd, 2021 03:16 pm
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Miz cashed in MITB to win the title at Elimination Chamber, then Lashley beat him for it last night on Raw.  No one has posted a peep about it.  I guess that shows the level of care that posters have here for Raw.

You'd think going into WM they would just keep McIntyre strong and set up a strong heel opponent for him to create a main event that someone might want to see.  Instead, they have a regressed Miz at his chicken shit heel worst (despite being a credible wrestler and former World champion for a decade now), win the belt and then literally run from challengers for 2 weeks.  Then another heel in Lashley squashes him for the title even though he's never been a credible main eventer in WWE going back 15 years. 

I suppose this sets up McIntyre regaining the belt from Lashley at WM in the least anticipated World title match at the show that I can remember.  The funny thing is, as always, if WWE had wanted to make this match mean something they could've given Lashley a monster push ages ago, kept him strong for a year or two, had him beat Lesnar to get a huge run back when that match was clamored for in some circles, and then this would be huge.  Instead, it's a battle of mid-carders, neither one over, nether one with a long enough track record to make WM mean anything. 

And Miz is just buried, all those years of hard work forgotten to be a two week transitional champion.



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No one is over in 2021 pandemic wrestling. It is a no win situation.



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martini wrote: No one is over in 2021 pandemic wrestling. It is a no win situation.
Who was over in WWE in February 2020 before the pandemic?



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From what I've heard, they want Lashley to fight Lesnar at Wrestlemania. And because Peacock will have control of the Network, WWE is not adverse to signing Lesnar and paying him a boatload of money to come in to fight Lashley. I can't see Lesnar winning because they won't pay him his salary to fight in front of TV screens.



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Superstar wrote: From what I've heard, they want Lashley to fight Lesnar at Wrestlemania. And because Peacock will have control of the Network, WWE is not adverse to signing Lesnar and paying him a boatload of money to come in to fight Lashley. I can't see Lesnar winning because they won't pay him his salary to fight in front of TV screens.

If this happens it's the exact reverse of how it should be done.  Lesnar needs to be gone, period.  Going back to that well again is ridiculous at this point.  He means 1/10 of what he did even 2 years ago, much less 5.  When he was still around and when Lashley was still relatively new in his return is when they needed Lashley to beat him to get the rub.  Now is too late. 

And where does that leave McIntyre, who already beat Lesnar in 3 minutes to supposedly get the rub last WM?  They spent a year building him as the top guy, and then pull the rug out from under him right before WM to go back to Lesnar again?

And when you go further back, a big reason why CM Punk is no longer with WWE is because he checked out after WWE gave Miz the monster push and WM win over Cena all those years ago instead of him.  Now look at where they are with Miz.  His year-long monster push isn't even a memory, and the funny thing is the guy busted his ass and wound up earning that push.  As soon as he got good, they stopped pushing him.  But nothing that happened beyond the last PPV is ever supposed to mean anything in WWE-land, so now we're supposed to forget he was ever good and just believe this new character, which is basically the same one he played 15 years ago when he first arrived with zero experience.

I really don't feel like booking is that hard.  Sincerely, I really don't.  There's behind the scenes stuff that we're not aware of and personalities to deal with, but Jesus Christ, they don't do ONE common sense thing anymore.  Not one.  




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Isn't all this just so Drew can win the title at WM again, but this time with a live crowd?



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Kriss wrote: Isn't all this just so Drew can win the title at WM again, but this time with a live crowd?
Yep, he never got his WrestleMania moment big pop of a title win celebration. And being the first crowd back in a year they will likely be hot and pop for almost anything. 



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So all of a sudden all you hear from the internet media is that Lashley was overdue and deserved the title ? Based on what ? The guy has the look and that's it. He's not that good in the ring, actually bad IMO and bland as a cardboard box charisma wise. Honestly I have tuned in the last two weeks just to see The Miz who is getting screwed over IMO. They really have something with The Miz who is a heat magnet in kind of a Honkey Tonk man kind of a way IMO.

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Bounce ALL of the titles, around everyone on the roster. Then you never have a superstar who is better than the rest demanding more money and etc.. Its how I have seen the past few years. Everyone gets to be the champion.

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Yeah Rossi, you said it exactly how I was feeling about this on Monday night.  Miz is the chicken heel, who is beaten by Lashley who is a bully heel.  Bobby Lashley has been beating up custodians in the back for a year now.  Who exactly are the fans supposed to cheer for in that scenario?  Miz really could be a great asset to this company, but they have buried his credibility about as far down as they possibly can.  They treat his character like he's been signed by AEW, and why?  He really has (or had) something to offer.  Where does his character go from here?  I agree that just decent booking isn't as hard as WWE is making it. 

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I guess WWE didn't get the memo from the Brock/Kofi situation that having a WWE Champion act like a complete 80's jobber isn't a great idea.  So after Lashley buries Miz for the belt, they have a rematch and do it all over again the next week.  Miz looks like a candidate for worst WWE champion ever the way they booked him.

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Boz1515 wrote: I guess WWE didn't get the memo from the Brock/Kofi situation that having a WWE Champion act like a complete 80's jobber isn't a great idea.  So after Lashley buries Miz for the belt, they have a rematch and do it all over again the next week.  Miz looks like a candidate for worst WWE champion ever the way they booked him.
When I heard he was getting a rematch I just groaned. The worst part is he tried to take this one seriously and still got squashed. WWE hadn’t understood for 30 years that you just can’t bury people like that and expect them to get over again. Even during the heyday of the Attitude Era they did that with a few guys and it always killed them. 



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