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KGB wrote: srossi wrote: WongLee wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: I have a few coworkers who are refusing. They are the microchip, new world order, world reset crowd.I work for a hospital also (non-clinical). They made us sign a waiver if you refuse the shot. They had a section to write why you refused. I cleverly wrote "The vaccine is being used by Bill Gates to depopulate the planet and usher in a New World Order". My boss caught this and she is quite used to my immaturity. She also knows that I have no fucks to give about whether I keep the job or not. She called me and said "you know this is going directly to your HR person, I'll send it if you want, but if you want to change your answer I have another form". Of course I took the irresponsible route and had her send it. I've heard nothing since. I'll bet the hospital management is in bed with Bill Gates.
I’m so glad I’m not your HR person. 


Straight, white males have no place in an HR department. 

This will be news to about 70% of the people I've worked with.



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retroken wrote: fully vaccinated, Pfizer, little to no side effects unlike the Shingles (Shringrax) vaccine I got last year which leveled me.

Anyone more afraid of the vaccine than COVID has other issues in my opinion.


Would you extend that opinion to a parent who's reluctant to let their child get jabbed?  We know the Chinese flu, statistically speaking, is not a threat to children.  Should they still get a novel vaccine with no data on long-term effects?  



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KGB wrote: retroken wrote: fully vaccinated, Pfizer, little to no side effects unlike the Shingles (Shringrax) vaccine I got last year which leveled me.

Anyone more afraid of the vaccine than COVID has other issues in my opinion.


Would you extend that opinion to a parent who's reluctant to let their child get jabbed?  We know the Chinese flu, statistically speaking, is not a threat to children.  Should they still get a novel vaccine with no data on long-term effects? 

Children under 16 aren't even eligible.  They need to do more testing.  Anyone would be crazy to give it to a child based on what we currently know.  I'm not sure if anyone is even arguing otherwise except the most extremist nuts.  This and the HPV vaccine, which is fairly new (but still around for years) and has been stopped in Europe, are the two right now that I wouldn't have my son get.



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srossi wrote: KGB wrote: srossi wrote: WongLee wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: I have a few coworkers who are refusing. They are the microchip, new world order, world reset crowd.I work for a hospital also (non-clinical). They made us sign a waiver if you refuse the shot. They had a section to write why you refused. I cleverly wrote "The vaccine is being used by Bill Gates to depopulate the planet and usher in a New World Order". My boss caught this and she is quite used to my immaturity. She also knows that I have no fucks to give about whether I keep the job or not. She called me and said "you know this is going directly to your HR person, I'll send it if you want, but if you want to change your answer I have another form". Of course I took the irresponsible route and had her send it. I've heard nothing since. I'll bet the hospital management is in bed with Bill Gates.
I’m so glad I’m not your HR person. 


Straight, white males have no place in an HR department. 

This will be news to about 70% of the people I've worked with.


Sounds like an exception to the rule.  In 15 years at my current place of employment, we've had 4 HR managers: two women, a black guy, and an obviously closeted white guy.  He just retired a week ago and we're getting a chick to replace him.  The HR assistant has also been a female that entire time.  At the corporate level, it's broads as far as the eye can see.  Anecdotally, yours is the first time I've heard of white men having such a representation.  



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srossi wrote: KGB wrote: retroken wrote: fully vaccinated, Pfizer, little to no side effects unlike the Shingles (Shringrax) vaccine I got last year which leveled me.

Anyone more afraid of the vaccine than COVID has other issues in my opinion.


Would you extend that opinion to a parent who's reluctant to let their child get jabbed?  We know the Chinese flu, statistically speaking, is not a threat to children.  Should they still get a novel vaccine with no data on long-term effects? 

Children under 16 aren't even eligible.  They need to do more testing.  Anyone would be crazy to give it to a child based on what we currently know.  I'm not sure if anyone is even arguing otherwise except the most extremist nuts.  This and the HPV vaccine, which is fairly new (but still around for years) and has been stopped in Europe, are the two right now that I wouldn't have my son get.


https://www.today.com/parents/los-angeles-schools-may-require-covid-19-vaccine-students-t205633

And if we've learned anything in the past year, once the camel's nose is under the tent...



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KGB wrote: srossi wrote: KGB wrote: retroken wrote: fully vaccinated, Pfizer, little to no side effects unlike the Shingles (Shringrax) vaccine I got last year which leveled me.

Anyone more afraid of the vaccine than COVID has other issues in my opinion.


Would you extend that opinion to a parent who's reluctant to let their child get jabbed?  We know the Chinese flu, statistically speaking, is not a threat to children.  Should they still get a novel vaccine with no data on long-term effects? 

Children under 16 aren't even eligible.  They need to do more testing.  Anyone would be crazy to give it to a child based on what we currently know.  I'm not sure if anyone is even arguing otherwise except the most extremist nuts.  This and the HPV vaccine, which is fairly new (but still around for years) and has been stopped in Europe, are the two right now that I wouldn't have my son get.


https://www.today.com/parents/los-angeles-schools-may-require-covid-19-vaccine-students-t205633

And if we've learned anything in the past year, once the camel's nose is under the tent...

I mentioned this yesterday because you can see the MSM beginning to put this spin out there.  Kids are now, supposedly, "susceptible" to the UK Variant.  Yesterday, GMA had a blurb about a daycare facility in Wisconsin where 20 kids all came down with Covid.  So, as much as I want to believe that this entire thing isn't some kind of government plot, you can see where this is going.  They're going to require everyone to get the damn shot now.  I don't care as much.  I'm done having kids and my body's  probably already fucked up enough from eating Stouffer's TV dinners and Hostess fruit pies for my entire childhood.  I'm not a fan of seeing kids required to get this.



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Blazer wrote: KGB wrote: srossi wrote: KGB wrote: retroken wrote: fully vaccinated, Pfizer, little to no side effects unlike the Shingles (Shringrax) vaccine I got last year which leveled me.

Anyone more afraid of the vaccine than COVID has other issues in my opinion.


Would you extend that opinion to a parent who's reluctant to let their child get jabbed?  We know the Chinese flu, statistically speaking, is not a threat to children.  Should they still get a novel vaccine with no data on long-term effects? 

Children under 16 aren't even eligible.  They need to do more testing.  Anyone would be crazy to give it to a child based on what we currently know.  I'm not sure if anyone is even arguing otherwise except the most extremist nuts.  This and the HPV vaccine, which is fairly new (but still around for years) and has been stopped in Europe, are the two right now that I wouldn't have my son get.


https://www.today.com/parents/los-angeles-schools-may-require-covid-19-vaccine-students-t205633

And if we've learned anything in the past year, once the camel's nose is under the tent...

I mentioned this yesterday because you can see the MSM beginning to put this spin out there.  Kids are now, supposedly, "susceptible" to the UK Variant.  Yesterday, GMA had a blurb about a daycare facility in Wisconsin where 20 kids all came down with Covid.  So, as much as I want to believe that this entire thing isn't some kind of government plot, you can see where this is going.  They're going to require everyone to get the damn shot now.  I don't care as much.  I'm done having kids and my body's  probably already fucked up enough from eating Stouffer's TV dinners and Hostess fruit pies for my entire childhood.  I'm not a fan of seeing kids required to get this.
Instead of just throwing numbers at us, the media should be providing us with useful information such as: How many of those 20 kids had serious symptoms? Any hospitalizations or deaths? Or were they asymptomatic or merely had flu-like symptoms that resolved in a couple days?

You can find COVID hospitalization/death data easily but it is much harder to find data on multi-inflammatory system (MIS-c) issues in children from COVID. When COVID first hit, there was talk about this mysterious illness that affected some children but then it dropped out of the headlines. That is the info that I need to make an informed decision about vaccinating my kid. Given that only 10 kids in my entire state (nearly all with some sort of underlting medical condition) under the age of 19 have died, I don't feel compelled to vaccinate my kid but that could change if there was compelling data about MIS-c and rates of long-term illness in children following COVID infection.


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Instead of just throwing numbers at us, the media should be providing us with useful information such as: How many of those 20 kids had serious symptoms? Any hospitalizations or deaths? Or were they asymptomatic or merely had flu-like symptoms that resolved in a couple days?

You can find COVID hospitalization/death data easily but it is much harder to find data on multi-inflammatory system (MIS-c) issues in children from COVID. When COVID first hit, there was talk about this mysterious illness that affected some children but then it dropped out of the headlines. That is the info that I need to make an informed decision about vaccinating my kid. Given that only 10 kids in my entire state (nearly all with some sort of underlting medical condition) under the age of 19 have died, I don't feel compelled to vaccinate my kid but that could change if there was compelling data about MIS-c and rates of long-term illness in children following COVID infection.




Exactly.  When the UK variant first made headlines around the Christmas holidays, there was an initial hue and cry that it was more dangerous to kids, that they acquired it more easily and that the effects were worse.  It only lasted a day or two because several NIH officials came out and said that no, there had not been an uptick in children's illnesses.  And since the UK variant came on the scene, the overall numbers in the United Kingdom have gone down substantially.  We saw the same thing here last spring when there was a brief hysteria -- Gov. Cuomo pushed it -- over Kawasaki syndrome.  It turned out that incidences of Kawasaki syndrome were entirely in line with the seasonal flu.  
The CDC's numbers for all of 2020 state that there were only 8 deaths under the age of 18 in which Covid was the only factor.  In light of that, there's no justification to mandate vaccination.   

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e2.htm?s_cid=mm7014e2_x



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I got COVID back in December . Same time as my wife. I had four days of mostly fatigue and aches with a an occasional fever. I have lived through worse. The Mrs. lost her sense of taste and smell for a bit and it seemed to knock her down even worse.

I have no desire to get the vaccine. However, the university I work for is pressure staff and students to get it. In fact, the president scolded the entire community in an email a few days ago about having to get the vaccine if you wan t to get back to normal. This was after her basically encouraging everyone to rat on everyone else who wasn't practicing all the necessary precautions during the holidays. It was a lousy act of leadership IMO.

We just bought a house last month and I am no position to lose my job right now. I am getting the first shot next week just because I am so damn over this shitstorm surrounding COVID that I don't want to risk my job.

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cheapseats wrote: I got COVID back in December . Same time as my wife. I had four days of mostly fatigue and aches with a an occasional fever. I have lived through worse. The Mrs. lost her sense of taste and smell for a bit and it seemed to knock her down even worse.

I have no desire to get the vaccine. However, the university I work for is pressure staff and students to get it. In fact, the president scolded the entire community in an email a few days ago about having to get the vaccine if you wan t to get back to normal. This was after her basically encouraging everyone to rat on everyone else who wasn't practicing all the necessary precautions during the holidays. It was a lousy act of leadership IMO.

We just bought a house last month and I am no position to lose my job right now. I am getting the first shot next week just because I am so damn over this shitstorm surrounding COVID that I don't want to risk my job.


Forcing the vaccination on someone who has already recovered from Covid is a bizarre development.  Why would you need a vaccine when your body is already doing what the vaccine is alleged to do?  Studies have already demonstrated that long-term immunity is developed after a bout of the illness.  How long that lasts is obviously unknown, but it it's anything like previous respiratory illnesses, for some it lasts a lifetime.  



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Big Garea Fan wrote: Blazer wrote: KGB wrote: srossi wrote: KGB wrote: retroken wrote: fully vaccinated, Pfizer, little to no side effects unlike the Shingles (Shringrax) vaccine I got last year which leveled me.

Anyone more afraid of the vaccine than COVID has other issues in my opinion.


Would you extend that opinion to a parent who's reluctant to let their child get jabbed?  We know the Chinese flu, statistically speaking, is not a threat to children.  Should they still get a novel vaccine with no data on long-term effects? 

Children under 16 aren't even eligible.  They need to do more testing.  Anyone would be crazy to give it to a child based on what we currently know.  I'm not sure if anyone is even arguing otherwise except the most extremist nuts.  This and the HPV vaccine, which is fairly new (but still around for years) and has been stopped in Europe, are the two right now that I wouldn't have my son get.


https://www.today.com/parents/los-angeles-schools-may-require-covid-19-vaccine-students-t205633

And if we've learned anything in the past year, once the camel's nose is under the tent...

I mentioned this yesterday because you can see the MSM beginning to put this spin out there.  Kids are now, supposedly, "susceptible" to the UK Variant.  Yesterday, GMA had a blurb about a daycare facility in Wisconsin where 20 kids all came down with Covid.  So, as much as I want to believe that this entire thing isn't some kind of government plot, you can see where this is going.  They're going to require everyone to get the damn shot now.  I don't care as much.  I'm done having kids and my body's  probably already fucked up enough from eating Stouffer's TV dinners and Hostess fruit pies for my entire childhood.  I'm not a fan of seeing kids required to get this.
Instead of just throwing numbers at us, the media should be providing us with useful information such as: How many of those 20 kids had serious symptoms? Any hospitalizations or deaths? Or were they asymptomatic or merely had flu-like symptoms that resolved in a couple days?

You can find COVID hospitalization/death data easily but it is much harder to find data on multi-inflammatory system (MIS-c) issues in children from COVID. When COVID first hit, there was talk about this mysterious illness that affected some children but then it dropped out of the headlines. That is the info that I need to make an informed decision about vaccinating my kid. Given that only 10 kids in my entire state (nearly all with some sort of underlting medical condition) under the age of 19 have died, I don't feel compelled to vaccinate my kid but that could change if there was compelling data about MIS-c and rates of long-term illness in children following COVID infection.



This is all spot on. 



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Got my first shot yesterday. Now, anytime a Microsoft commercial comes on, I get a raging erection...my wife thought that was great at first, but now she's hidden the TV remote and taken away my phone. Goddamn you, Bill Gates!



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So, is the general consensus that people feel the effects of the shot the day after receiving it? I had my first dose last Monday. I was fine all week. Then yesterday (Sunday) I was pretty much knocked on my ass. I had that weird tingling feeling through my entire body that you get right before a major cold is coming on or right after. I haven’t really been “sick” in years. I just kinda dozed on the couch all afternoon with no appetite, but man did that suck. I’m much better today. Not sure what else could have caused that though.



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I had no side effects for either of the shots other than a sore arm after the first one.

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