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 Posted: Mon Apr 19th, 2021 03:59 am
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Ok, this was a weird topic of discussion the other night around the fire. 


The 1980’s are both loved and hated depending on the person. 

The Music 
The early 1980’s was the transition out of the Disco era. Later on in the decade, there was music heavily-influenced by the synthesizer.  You had a pop music explosion comparable to the counter-culture of the 1960’s.  There was also the Big Hair and Glam bands in the last half of the decade. And of course, there was MTV and music videos.  The Michael Jackson, Prince, Madonna and Springsteen craze. 



The Movies
ET, Back To The Future series, Ghostbusters, The Breakfast Club, St. Elmo’s Fire, Rambo movies, Scarface, Full Metal Jacket, Die Hard, The Shining, The Outsiders, Purple Rain, Goonies, Ferris Bueller’s..., Raiders of the Lost Ark, Fast Times..., Stand By Me



Politics and National Stature
This was the decade of Reagan.  The first few years of the 1980’s seemed dark and depressing. Around 1984/1985, the patriotic fervor began to build within the country. Some say it was great national awakening while others said it was a great PR tactic at a national level to push people to follow a certain social, economic or military agenda.  Unions took a huge blow when Reagan fired the air traffic controllers.  Industry and industry jobs were being off-shored at a record pace and nobody seemed to see it as a national issue.  People were still blaming specific companies and corporations while the government was an accessory to the off-shoring. From the mid-1980’s to the end of the 1980’s, the country seemed overall to have a positive outlook while the “Decade of Greed” was raging behind closed conference room doors.  “It’s Morning In America, Again.”  The beginning of the 1980’s had assassination attempts on Reagan and John Paul II and John Lennon was shot dead in front of The Dakota.  The new Evangelical Movement began to meld with politics.
 

Wrestling (LOL)
Territories were being killed off and others were dying. Wrestlemania was born! The WWF and the national expansion. The marriage between professional wrestling and MTV which helped launch pro wrestling into the mainstream. Wrestling somewhat mirrored what was going on at the national level. 


Where do you think the 1980’s rank compared to other decades? 

Are there any other decades comparable to the 1980’s?  Some say the 1920’s or 1960’s. 


Are the 1980’s overrated or underrated today for it’s place in history? 

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It's always subjective and based on your nostalgic memories and what was going on in your life at the time.  Every decade has its pluses and minuses.  The '80s is my childhood and I loved it.  All the negatives of it still bring back warm and fuzzy memories.  I love seeing the dirty, graffiti-defaced trains in NYC back then even though it wasn't really pleasant to live through.  By the time the late '90s came, I was only in my early 20s and already nostalgic for the '80s and thinking that I missed all the good shit.  Now all these years later, I'm nostalgic for the '90s and think back to all the cool shit that was going on then that I didn't fully appreciate.  An entire generation is going to think the 2010s were awesome in another 20 years even though it seemed culturally to be like shit to me.   



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I would tell you that in terms of music the 1980s were the greatest but the biggest stars were Madonna and Michael Jackson and it gets harder to defend that argument at that point

Wrestling was better. Easy. Same with movies. Golden era for both.


Politics. Didn't seem like we have as much in-fighting as we have today. Seem is the key word.

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My sweet spot for wrestling is basically '84 to '89. It leans a bit either way out of the range, but I'll be happy collecting as many dvds or blu-rays from that era and will be content from here on out without ever watching anything else.

Music and movies are pretty solid from that era too and hold up well. You had Die Hard, Home Alone, and the original Keaton Batman movie on the tail end, and Empire and Return of the Jedi, ET, Raiders, etc on the front end. Breakfast Club, Ferris Buehler, Ghost Busters, Top Gun, Back to the Future, Beverly Hills Cops,... my god, just listing these out. How many good movies like this have there been since 2010?

So many great 80s songs to pick from when you get away from the Madonna shit. U2, Van Halen, Phil Collins, Def Leppard, Hall & Oates, Mellencamp, Bon Jovi, Stevie Winwood, even stuff from Prince and George Michael.

If anything, the 80s are underrated.



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I graduated HS in the class of 1989, so this decade was really my coming of age.  As srossi said, it all boils down to your personal experience, and for me it was a golden age.  I was truly blessed to have a fairly care-free existence, multiple circles of friends, a great mix of free-time and activities, and always had money in my pocket (I had part time jobs starting with a paper route just after my 11th birthday).

Music:  Popular music from this decade is fairly distinctive.  As others mentioned, the first couple years were kind of aimless as the late 70s sound was shed.  1981 was the year of corporate rock, with Journey, Styx, REO, and Foreigner all selling massive amounts of records.  But for me, 1982 is when the truly golden age of 80's pop kicked off.  Personally, I'd say it ran through mid 1985, with Live Aid being a convenient marker for its conclusion.  From that point through 1987 it was still mostly decent but the signs were there that we were due for a market correction.  1988 and 1989 is when the bottom fell out.  SiriusXM's 80s channel does a top 40 retro each weekend from a random year of that decade.  When they do one from 1989, it's almost appalling how poor the songs are.  I heard one last year and as God is my witness there were 7 straight songs with exactly the same tinny, manufactured beat.  You know the one -- think "Straight Up" by Paula Abdul -- tick...tick...BOOM, tick...tick...BOOM.  It was like listening to a medley.  The only variety was the occasional ballad or hair metal song.  Often, the ballad was by a hair metal band.  

There were a lot of things that led up to this decline.  Pre-packaged pop stars has always been a thing, but Madonna took things to another level.  And while her first few albums are uneven, they were admittedly filled with lots of very well-crafted pop songs.  As the imitators started to gain a toehold, from Tiffany to the aforementioned Paula Abdul, they lacked the songwriting to make true ear candy.  Another issue was the emergence of Whitney Houston in late 1985.  Just like that, we had the birth of the modern Diva.  Your Arethra Franklin's had been around forever, but Houston was the first pop singer who seemed hell bent on murdering every note placed before her.  Actually, it took a few more years before your Mariahs and Toni Braxtons truly made it a genre unto itself, but the die was cast for singers who shunned true melody.  Think about the way Steve Perry sang "Open Arms" vs. Mariah.  Perry takes his prodigious talents and puts them to use supporting the song.  Mariah, on the other hand, takes a very pretty melody and treats it like her latest BDSM victim.  The other thing that started to take hold in the middle of the decade was the Africanization of pop music, as evidenced by the percussion sections of every song sounding like someone pounding on a hollow log.   Rap started to make inroads into music and pop culture in the middle of the decade.  The Fat Boys were doing commercials for Swatch, Run DMC had the collaboration with Aerosmith, The Beastie Boys shot to stardom, etc.  Downstream from that, black acts on the pop charts began evolving from your Lionel Richies to your Bobby Browns.  Same thing happened, out goes the melody, in comes the dull beat.  

So, I'd say it's a little of both when it comes to 80s pop, there were a few years that are still underrated and a few years that are overrated.  Outside of pop music I think the decade is underrated overall.  Maybe that gets back to the ossified Rolling Stone/classic rock types who can't look past the 60s?  But there was a shit ton of truly great albums put out that decade that don't get quite the respect they deserve from the larger culture, although they get more positive attention now than they did 20 years ago.  

Movies:  In my 20s, I'd have said the 70s were a much better decade for movies than the 80s.  And that's still true from a critical standpoint.  But I think I now enjoy 80s movies more.  Today, I'd rather see a movie end with people playing in mountains of popcorn while "Everybody Wants To Rule The World" plays over the credits (Real Genius) than a psychopath shooting up johns and pimps who are abusing underage prostitutes.  I recognize the artistic merit in a film like Taxi Driver but I've moved on from marveling at how "cool" it is.   But overall, I'd say that 80s movies are neither overrated nor underrated.  Their place in pop culture is right about where it should be.  



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The Movies
ET, Back To The Future series, Ghostbusters, The Breakfast Club, St. Elmo’s Fire, Rambo movies, Scarface, Full Metal Jacket, Die Hard, The Shining, The Outsiders, Purple Rain, Goonies, Ferris Bueller’s..., Raiders of the Lost Ark, Fast Times..., Stand By Me

A few hold up in a cheesy sort of way, but some are just really bad to watch now.  I saw "Goonies" again last year for the first time in 30 years and man, that was tough to get through.  Awful acting and writing that would be panned today.  Some of these movies are best left vaguely remembering than seeing again.  




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srossi wrote: The Movies
ET, Back To The Future series, Ghostbusters, The Breakfast Club, St. Elmo’s Fire, Rambo movies, Scarface, Full Metal Jacket, Die Hard, The Shining, The Outsiders, Purple Rain, Goonies, Ferris Bueller’s..., Raiders of the Lost Ark, Fast Times..., Stand By Me
[highlight= rgb(255, 255, 255);]A few hold up in a cheesy sort of way, but some are just really bad to watch now.  I saw "Goonies" again last year for the first time in 30 years and man, that was tough to get through.  Awful acting and writing that would be panned today.  Some of these movies are best left vaguely remembering than seeing again.  


Oh man, The Goonies is one of those movies that should be right in my wheelhouse, but lord is it painful to sit through.  By the time Brandon says his "Long enough, Mikey, long enough" line, I had very dark thoughts in my mind.  Only Kerri Green keeps me from acting on them.   
Purple Rain is another one.  Great soundtrack, but a ridiculously horrible movie.  



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under rated

Best times of my life was the 1980's

Age may have something to do with it. I was in my 20's.



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Lots of good porn stars in the 80's. Christy Canyon, Amber and Ginger Lynn, Hyapatia Lee, Ashlyn Gere and Asia Carrera. Underrated

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Principal_Raditch wrote: Lots of good porn stars in the 80's. Christy Canyon, Amber and Ginger Lynn, Hyapatia Lee, Ashlyn Gere and Asia Carrera. UnderratedDon't forget Taija Rae!

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The music was better in the 70s and 90s.



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