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 Posted: Sun Jul 11th, 2021 03:22 pm
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A legitimate concern?

A scare tactic to get everybody to run to the vaccine?

You tell us ....

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beejmi wrote: A legitimate concern?

A scare tactic to get everybody to run to the vaccine?

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Definitely more the latter.  I have no idea why the PTB have made it a point over the last year and a half to willfully ignore established science or even turn it on its head.  We've seen it with the mandating of mask wearing when a mountain of literature pre-2020 demonstrated that it was ineffective against flu-like illnesses (and a year and half of real-world data hasn't turned up a single instance of mask mandates affecting transmission rates).  We've seen it with mandating lockdowns.  We've seen it with the ferocity with which they're promoting mRNA "vaccines" despite their checkered past.  We've seen it with the refusal to discuss the role of seasonality in the cycles of infection.  There has been an organized effort to suppress effective treatments and prophylactics such as HcQ and Ivermectin.  We've seen it in the refusal to acknowledge the benefits of natural immunity -- to the point that the WHO quietly changed its definition of herd immunity last fall to remove all mention of natural immunity (which is clearly better than a vaccine).

Which brings us to the mutation of flu and cold like infections.  Centuries of experience tells us that they will always mutate in such a way as to become more transmissible but less lethal.  That's how the virus survives as it begins to run out of hosts.  It doesn't help its survival rate if it just kills off everyone that it infects.  The human race wouldn't exist if that was the case.  We'd have been killed off long ago by a virus that became continually stronger and infectious.  So look at the UK's experience with Delta.  Their death rate has remained flat and minimal, even though the Delta variant now accounts for nearly 100% of all infections.  In the meantime, the people who are becoming infected with the Delta variant are gaining natural immunity with only a very slight possibility of serious illness or death.  In the main, the Delta variant is a positive step in the evolution of Covid.  




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beejmi wrote: A legitimate concern?

A scare tactic to get everybody to run to the vaccine?

You tell us ....

I heard a few days ago that the Pfizer vaccine, which is the one I got, was only 65% effective against the delta variant and we would probably need a booster.  Then yesterday I heard it's just as effective against it as any other vaccine and no booster is required.  They're all "reputable" news sources and they're just making shit up.  They have no clue.



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Don't forget about the Delta Plus and the Lambada variants.



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I don't think the Delta variation is any worse than all of the others. I also think if you have been vaccinated you'll be fine. You may still catch it but it won't sicken you.



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Cases going up in Missouri and Arkansas because of the delta and the people who are not getting vaccinated. Australia having to lockdown. Not many vaccinated there either.

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Spatulapup wrote:



Tell me more 



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There will be variants until we are all dead except for Will Smith and his dog.

That's the legend anyways.



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Franchise wrote: Spatulapup wrote: Tell me more “     ”
This good?



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We got a bunch of cases sent up from Springfield this weekend since they're out of beds. Pretty much rural hillbilly trash. So if that's who this takes out, we're really no worse off.

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The hospitals in those other states are full as well. I guess they thought it was a hoax too. No masks, no vaccines, the election was rigged, those weren't trump supporters at the capitol on Jan 6 . Same old routine.

Rob Schneider of all people is telling people not to get vaccinated. 

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Spatulapup wrote: The hospitals in those other states are full as well. I guess they thought it was a hoax too. No masks, no vaccines, the election was rigged, those weren't trump supporters at the capitol on Jan 6 . Same old routine.

Rob Schneider of all people is telling people not to get vaccinated. 


What!  Not the Rob Schneider!!



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srossi wrote: beejmi wrote: A legitimate concern?

A scare tactic to get everybody to run to the vaccine?

You tell us ....

I heard a few days ago that the Pfizer vaccine, which is the one I got, was only 65% effective against the delta variant and we would probably need a booster.  Then yesterday I heard it's just as effective against it as any other vaccine and no booster is required.  They're all "reputable" news sources and they're just making shit up.  They have no clue.

Bad reporting, which is not unusual.
A study from Israel said that the Pfizer vaccine was only 65% effective in preventing Delta infection, compared to around 95% for other strains of the virus.
However, the same study indicated it is about equally as effective in preventing serious illness.
Israel is now offering a third shot to 'vulnerable' people.
If you look at the data from the UK over the past month 'cases' have gone through the roof, hospitalisations have increased slowly but steadily and deaths have remained very, very low. However, the media focus is ALL on 'cases'. 
It does appear that the vaccines are having a positive impact but this never-ending scaremongering and panic is disgusting and the reporting in general is a disgrace,.

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Spatulapup wrote: Cases going up in Missouri and Arkansas because of the delta and the people who are not getting vaccinated. Australia having to lockdown. Not many vaccinated there either.

Australia 'having' to lockdown isn't giving the full picture. Australia's strategy involves locking down whenever someone sneezes outside.

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