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 Posted: Fri Jul 30th, 2021 07:35 pm
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This happened at NXT.  

JJ Williams: “Last week I was singled out and removed from the tv taping due to my association with WONF4W. Security took a picture of my ID, had me delete the photos from my phone and escorted me off the property. My time and devotion will no longer be given to their company going forward. It was never my intention to be a problem or cause any issues for the promotion. None of my tweets were on the # yet I was told my social media was being monitored. A majority of those in attendance including media representatives were sharing results with no consequences. After purchasing tickets and attending events since 2014 this obviously hurts, all I ever wanted to do was encourage the talent and share my enjoyment of this show and genre. Despite this chapter closing, I still wish all my friends who work there the greatest success possible. If we have ever had any problems in the past or you just don’t care for me please know that I hold no grudges or ill will towards anyone. I truly love watching, talking, and learning everything possible about wrestling and that will not stop. Thank you for reading.”

Tony Khan immediately trolled WWE by replying: “See you at #AEWDynamite Homecoming, JJ! We’re looking forward to your visit.”



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Does anyone get the impression that the WWE is actually now dead? It just doesn't know it yet? It's been so eaten away from underneath that it's only going to take one blow to knock it down?

(mixing lots of metaphors there)



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kargol wrote: Does anyone get the impression that the WWE is actually now dead? It just doesn't know it yet? It's been so eaten away from underneath that it's only going to take one blow to knock it down?

(mixing lots of metaphors there)

Yes.  I've said that for a few months now.  Not dead in that it will disappear tomorrow or Raw will move to public access after this contract, but dead in the sense that Vince is looking to unload it and it is quickly devolving into irrelevancy.  It is a corporation that will make certain people money for a few more years, maybe lots of it, but I would now take a bet that AEW outlives it.  I think once it is sold it will only last a few years in its current form before it just becomes a brand.  I'm not 100% sure what form that will take, but I don't think you'll see weekly wrestling shows.  I think it will sell merch, be a theme park, spin-off into a scripted show on a streaming platform, etc. but it won't be this.  I think in 50 years, you might see the WWE letters in more places than now if the right company buys it, and you won't even associate it with wrestling anymore.

I can see HHH and Stephanie winding up part of the corporate structure of whoever takes it over to the point that they work themselves up to running their own network or something, completely separate from WWE.  They're smart and they're going to become billionaires on their own, and it will have nothing to do with wrestling.  WWE will just be their entry point to a promotion to something far bigger.  Watch.  The whole thing is sad though, because as much as WWE destroyed real wrestling, it also is the only link left to real wrestling.  And when that's gone, it's all gone, even if AEW or other newcomers continue and have great success.



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srossi wrote: kargol wrote: Does anyone get the impression that the WWE is actually now dead? It just doesn't know it yet? It's been so eaten away from underneath that it's only going to take one blow to knock it down?

(mixing lots of metaphors there)

Yes.  I've said that for a few months now.  Not dead in that it will disappear tomorrow or Raw will move to public access after this contract, but dead in the sense that Vince is looking to unload it and it is quickly devolving into irrelevancy.  It is a corporation that will make certain people money for a few more years, maybe lots of it, but I would now take a bet that AEW outlives it.  I think once it is sold it will only last a few years in its current form before it just becomes a brand.  I'm not 100% sure what form that will take, but I don't think you'll see weekly wrestling shows.  I think it will sell merch, be a theme park, spin-off into a scripted show on a streaming platform, etc. but it won't be this.  I think in 50 years, you might see the WWE letters in more places than now if the right company buys it, and you won't even associate it with wrestling anymore.

I can see HHH and Stephanie winding up part of the corporate structure of whoever takes it over to the point that they work themselves up to running their own network or something, completely separate from WWE.  They're smart and they're going to become billionaires on their own, and it will have nothing to do with wrestling.  WWE will just be their entry point to a promotion to something far bigger.  Watch.  The whole thing is sad though, because as much as WWE destroyed real wrestling, it also is the only link left to real wrestling.  And when that's gone, it's all gone, even if AEW or other newcomers continue and have great success.

Well that was fuckin depressing to read!  All kidding aside, none of us know how it will all play out these next few years but I think the odds are pretty high that you aren’t far off here. It sucks for those of us old school rasslin fans, but that’s life. As long as the network still exists in some entity when I’m old and retired and can barely move, but I can still watch Prime Time and WCW from the 80s and 90s I’ll be happy enough, because like a lot of others here, I hardly ever watch the current WWE product as it exists today. 



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cookie32723 wrote: srossi wrote: kargol wrote: Does anyone get the impression that the WWE is actually now dead? It just doesn't know it yet? It's been so eaten away from underneath that it's only going to take one blow to knock it down?

(mixing lots of metaphors there)

Yes.  I've said that for a few months now.  Not dead in that it will disappear tomorrow or Raw will move to public access after this contract, but dead in the sense that Vince is looking to unload it and it is quickly devolving into irrelevancy.  It is a corporation that will make certain people money for a few more years, maybe lots of it, but I would now take a bet that AEW outlives it.  I think once it is sold it will only last a few years in its current form before it just becomes a brand.  I'm not 100% sure what form that will take, but I don't think you'll see weekly wrestling shows.  I think it will sell merch, be a theme park, spin-off into a scripted show on a streaming platform, etc. but it won't be this.  I think in 50 years, you might see the WWE letters in more places than now if the right company buys it, and you won't even associate it with wrestling anymore.

I can see HHH and Stephanie winding up part of the corporate structure of whoever takes it over to the point that they work themselves up to running their own network or something, completely separate from WWE.  They're smart and they're going to become billionaires on their own, and it will have nothing to do with wrestling.  WWE will just be their entry point to a promotion to something far bigger.  Watch.  The whole thing is sad though, because as much as WWE destroyed real wrestling, it also is the only link left to real wrestling.  And when that's gone, it's all gone, even if AEW or other newcomers continue and have great success.

Well that was fuckin depressing to read!  All kidding aside, none of us know how it will all play out these next few years but I think the odds are pretty high that you aren’t far off here. It sucks for those of us old school rasslin fans, but that’s life. As long as the network still exists in some entity when I’m old and retired and can barely move, but I can still watch Prime Time and WCW from the 80s and 90s I’ll be happy enough, because like a lot of others here, I hardly ever watch the current WWE product as it exists today. 

If that’s what you want, I would download it all over the next year and put it on hard drives. There’s no way 90% of that stuff will be as easily accessible or it censored to death in 5 years much less 20. 



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srossi wrote: cookie32723 wrote: srossi wrote: kargol wrote: Does anyone get the impression that the WWE is actually now dead? It just doesn't know it yet? It's been so eaten away from underneath that it's only going to take one blow to knock it down?

(mixing lots of metaphors there)

Yes.  I've said that for a few months now.  Not dead in that it will disappear tomorrow or Raw will move to public access after this contract, but dead in the sense that Vince is looking to unload it and it is quickly devolving into irrelevancy.  It is a corporation that will make certain people money for a few more years, maybe lots of it, but I would now take a bet that AEW outlives it.  I think once it is sold it will only last a few years in its current form before it just becomes a brand.  I'm not 100% sure what form that will take, but I don't think you'll see weekly wrestling shows.  I think it will sell merch, be a theme park, spin-off into a scripted show on a streaming platform, etc. but it won't be this.  I think in 50 years, you might see the WWE letters in more places than now if the right company buys it, and you won't even associate it with wrestling anymore.

I can see HHH and Stephanie winding up part of the corporate structure of whoever takes it over to the point that they work themselves up to running their own network or something, completely separate from WWE.  They're smart and they're going to become billionaires on their own, and it will have nothing to do with wrestling.  WWE will just be their entry point to a promotion to something far bigger.  Watch.  The whole thing is sad though, because as much as WWE destroyed real wrestling, it also is the only link left to real wrestling.  And when that's gone, it's all gone, even if AEW or other newcomers continue and have great success.

Well that was fuckin depressing to read!  All kidding aside, none of us know how it will all play out these next few years but I think the odds are pretty high that you aren’t far off here. It sucks for those of us old school rasslin fans, but that’s life. As long as the network still exists in some entity when I’m old and retired and can barely move, but I can still watch Prime Time and WCW from the 80s and 90s I’ll be happy enough, because like a lot of others here, I hardly ever watch the current WWE product as it exists today. 

If that’s what you want, I would download it all over the next year and put it on hard drives. There’s no way 90% of that stuff will be as easily accessible or it censored to death in 5 years much less 20. 

Thankfully I already put most everything I want on hard drives years ago, the network is just damn convenient. 

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I haven't really watched current wrestling since around the year 2000, I just read about it here and there.
I simply moved to a place where I didn't get cable. And I started watching old tapes, and since I'm a nostalgic person anyway, those hit the spot.
But as someone who is like from a time capsule from 2000, WWE does seem like it's pretty much dead and I'm expecting to hear it's been sold before long.

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