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 Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 02:13 am
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I just watched an episode of WWF All-Star Wrestling from 1981 which had a WWF Tag title bout with the Moondogs combination of Rex and Spot.  It was discussed on commentary and in an interview with former champs Rick Martel & Tony Garea, that the addition of Spot was like a third member of the team, rather than Spot outright replacing King.   Even though it wound up that King did not appear going forward after being denied entry into the U.S. coming from Canada, the potential use of the Freebird rule was how they positioned it initially, maybe betting that King would work out his issues and return.  All three Moondogs did appear together in South Africa as the Strongbo Brothers at some point after the WWF title run, but I like that concept of Lou Albano stratregizing to rotate the 3 Moondogs being used, upon seeing the show in retrospect.    
Was King ever allowed to work back in the U.S. again in later years?  I recall him as Sailor White having notable bouts up in Canada through the 80s



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A quick check showed he wrestled three bouts for WCW in the US in 1991, but nothing outside of Canada after December 1981.

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They ended up doing it with another Albano team a few years later with The Samoans with the addition of Samu(la).

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And then Crush with Demolition in 1990, which was 30 years ago, even though it seems like it was 30 years between the Moondogs and Demolition when it was only 9. Love the WWF using the Freebird Rule though.



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What was the story on 'King' not being allowed into the US?

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Blazer wrote: And then Crush with Demolition in 1990, which was 30 years ago, even though it seems like it was 30 years between the Moondogs and Demolition when it was only 9. Love the WWF using the Freebird Rule though.
That was when Ax was having health problems and seemed like he was 100 years old even then. Ax really did continue to wrestle under the Freebird rule though, but barely. 90% of the time it was Smash and Crush going forward. They also did some 6-man matches where Ax just had to come in for a couple of spots. 

Crush was actually the equivalent of an indy darling at the time. He was really gaining a rep in PNW, which was on its last legs. I was a big fan but never thought he fit into Demolition at all. Crush was the first guy I ever saw do a tilt-a-whirl backbreaker, which I thought was a really cool spot at the time. 



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beejmi wrote: What was the story on 'King' not being allowed into the US?



He was transporting materials of ill repute across borders, as the story goes.     I don't think either side liked it.  Essentially King was a tag champion for only about 3 weeks before the incident, and Lou Albano subbed for a number of weeks until they plucked Larry Booker out of Louisiana.  Sgt. Slaughter pulled double duty on a few cards as well.

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I think they would have been forced into the Freebird Rule if King came back or McMahon may have just written him off at that point and went with Spot even if he did clear his legal limitations.

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I am under the impression that initially the WWF hoped Moondog King would get his visa situation fixed and would have either sent Spot out or used him as an extra guy but not as a regular champ.

When the Valiants were supposed to get the tag straps in early 1979 and Jimmy got hepatitis, Jerry came in to team with Johnny as tag team champions and Jimmy didn’t get a share.

With the Samoans in 1983, my recollection is that when Sika got hurt, Afa and Samula worked as the champs at the arenas and made TV via MSG and The Spectrum local broadcasts but never appeared on or were mentioned on the syndicated shows as tag team champions. The WWF aired old Samoans matches with Afa and Sika until the latter recovered. Once Sika returned, he and Afa were champions while Samula worked singles or six mans with them but wasn’t called or considered a tag team title holder.

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IIRC, on tv - in a truly inspired adlib - Albano explained King's absence by saying he had been hit by a car.

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tamalie wrote: I am under the impression that initially the WWF hoped Moondog King would get his visa situation fixed and would have either sent Spot out or used him as an extra guy but not as a regular champ.

When the Valiants were supposed to get the tag straps in early 1979 and Jimmy got hepatitis, Jerry came in to team with Johnny as tag team champions and Jimmy didn’t get a share.

With the Samoans in 1983, my recollection is that when Sika got hurt, Afa and Samula worked as the champs at the arenas and made TV via MSG and The Spectrum local broadcasts but never appeared on or were mentioned on the syndicated shows as tag team champions. The WWF aired old Samoans matches with Afa and Sika until the latter recovered. Once Sika returned, he and Afa were champions while Samula worked singles or six mans with them but wasn’t called or considered a tag team title holder.


Sika was essentially out for 2 months based on the way Samula (#3) was utilized at house shows.   I've tried to make sense out of the Allentown and Hamburg TV tapings during that time to no avail using various resources.  The old fan bulletins really screwed things up in the way it was printed without this perspective, as if old bouts were new matches appearing on TV for the first time.   Somewhere I saw a Jimmy Snuka match which was one of the first tapings after the Argentino death, and Patterson/McMahon are glowing about him on commentary like they are being character witnesses.  

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Was Samula used as the first Tonga Kid or am I crazy? If so, was there any explanation of this tv or they just avoided it?



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Blazer wrote: Was Samula used as the first Tonga Kid or am I crazy? If so, was there any explanation of this tv or they just avoided it?

I have that whole scenario on tape and still do not understand what they were doing unless they aired them out of sequence in my viewing area.  Fatu was already anointed the Tonga Kid and then a week or so later Samu comes out asking Piper to try and break his neck.

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Papa Voo wrote: Blazer wrote: Was Samula used as the first Tonga Kid or am I crazy? If so, was there any explanation of this tv or they just avoided it?

I have that whole scenario on tape and still do not understand what they were doing unless they aired them out of sequence in my viewing area.  Fatu was already anointed the Tonga Kid and then a week or so later Samu comes out asking Piper to try and break his neck.


Fuck, I don't remember that at all.



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I saw an interview with Tonga Kid from probably 7-8 years ago, and he said by changing their names/nationalities, they were trying to bring awareness to more of the Oceanic nations.   If not mistaken, I think there were a number of independent shows organized by Afa after he left WWF, and it seems to be quite a family affair, but they weren't all billed as Samoan werstlers.

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