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 Posted: Wed Feb 2nd, 2022 02:21 am
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srossi wrote: Tonight’s NXT was as bad as any wrestling program I’ve ever seen.Dammit...don't make me watch it. Gimme' some bullet points on how/why it stunk.



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Erick Von Erich wrote: srossi wrote: Tonight’s NXT was as bad as any wrestling program I’ve ever seen.Dammit...don't make me watch it. Gimme' some bullet points on how/why it stunk.
Honestly I have no idea who most of these people are anymore, and I watch every week. So many new characters and the gimmicks make it impossible for any of them to get over. The girl in her pajamas who falls asleep during matches was back again, but this time she wrestled a girl I didn’t know, while another girl I don’t really know came to the ring with her father’s credit card. Somehow this distracted her and pj girl won and wound up getting the credit card. And that segment went on forever. 

And then poor Kay Lee Ray, the longest reigning NXT UK Women’s champ, spent 5 segments chasing Mandy Rose with a bat. A dude literally got a boner seeing them (not PG anymore I guess) and there was a food fight and when she finally caught her she threw the bat down and superkicked her instead. 

There’s this Japanese girl who’s supposed to be a great worker but she used her grandmother’s medallion to…do something. I don’t know, she was wearing a Japanese schoolgirl outfit one minute and then touched it and transformed into her wrestling gear. It’s the type of thing that could never get over on the main roster (or anywhere else), which I thought was the point of blowing up the former NXT, because they want to mold stars for Raw and Smackdown. In front of a WWE crowd, she’d be eaten alive with that gimmick. They all would. 

I can’t even go on. I’m losing brain cells typing this. The whole show was like this with 5 seconds of wrestling sprinkled in. 



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Kriss wrote: The Wendy Choo gimmick is the worst gimmick in the history of NXT, WWE, WWF, WWWF and CWC. Prove me wrong.
Well, I guess they did. Sarray is a Japanese schoolgirl with a magical amulet that turns her into a superhero, the Warrior of the Sun.

Or maybe Nikkita Lyons, the rapper/singer who sounds like she can't do either.

These fucking gimmicks. Nonsensical bullshit that wouldn't have flown in 1993. No one in the history of wrestling has gotten over with this kind of gimmick. If they are so good at whatever the thing they do is, why are they also wrestling? Not one of these cartoon gimmicks is a possible main-eventer.

Goofy nonsense works in a promotion like Chikara or PWG. But everyone is in on the joke in those shows. It's a parody of wrestling, or pro wrestling in world where the audience knows it's not real. It works for a small crowd and in small doses. The NXT 2.0 are into the show, and that should be the extent of their audience. The same show on the Network or YouTube would be fine, but putting it on national television will never work. Also, those promotions I mentioned had excellent wrestlers and serious main events. There's a reason why the Orange Cassidy in AEW is different to the one we saw in the indies. And even in "comedy wrestling" promotions, there's still the belief (suspended, I'll admit) that the competitors are wrestlers who want to win matches and titles. Some rich girl running around with a credit card... there's no connection between that and her wanting to wrestle. Even the Undertaker only really got over as a legitimate main eventer when they toned down the gimmick. And he's the only example of a goofy gimmick that actually broke through. Any other successful gimmick on a national level had something to connect them to a desire to win wrestling championships. 

The only success they have at the moment is Bron Breakker. They guy who doesn't have a goofy gimmick. And a lot of his popularity comes from his lineage, which they won't even mention.

And hot women getting food thrown over them? All so Vince can try to get his old man pecker to move. Not to kink-shame Vince, but it's crazy that WWE get away with this by putting it on national television. If he wanted them do this for his private collection he'd never get away with it.

And pumping in fake crowd noise that couldn't possibly come from only 200 people? Such a strange, strange show.

I do love me some wrestlecrap, though, so long may it continue.

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srossi wrote: According to Meltzer, Shawn Micahels has pretty much taken over NXT from HHH, and they are "very high on him". While every other HHH ally has been fired, Michaels has just been given more power and is all in with the new direction. After coming in as a coach and a part-time helper, he's now considered to be essentially the "showrunner" for NXT, and the new HHH.  He's making, or is at least consulted in, nearly every decision, which is a pretty big shock considering that an executive path is something those who knew him in the '90s would've never imagined. 
Is he still Vince's "boy toy"? All the innuedo regarding the true relationship between Shawn and Vince seems to me to get new life with this report.



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Kriss wrote: Kriss wrote: The Wendy Choo gimmick is the worst gimmick in the history of NXT, WWE, WWF, WWWF and CWC. Prove me wrong.
Well, I guess they did. Sarray is a Japanese schoolgirl with a magical amulet that turns her into a superhero, the Warrior of the Sun.

Or maybe Nikkita Lyons, the rapper/singer who sounds like she can't do either.

I get the impression that they're aiming at an audience whose age is in the single digits.  It's literal cartoon stuff in the Sarray case.  Jem or Dungeons & Dragons or something.  Did He Man have a jewel?
The one interesting thing is how good Wendy Choo is at incorporating narcolepsy in her moves.  Like turning a leg bar into a nap.  She's obviously worked hard at trying to give some level of legitimacy to the gimmick.



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kargol wrote: Kriss wrote: Kriss wrote: The Wendy Choo gimmick is the worst gimmick in the history of NXT, WWE, WWF, WWWF and CWC. Prove me wrong.
Well, I guess they did. Sarray is a Japanese schoolgirl with a magical amulet that turns her into a superhero, the Warrior of the Sun.

Or maybe Nikkita Lyons, the rapper/singer who sounds like she can't do either.

I get the impression that they're aiming at an audience whose age is in the single digits.  It's literal cartoon stuff in the Sarray case.  Jem or Dungeons & Dragons or something.  Did He Man have a jewel?
The one interesting thing is how good Wendy Choo is at incorporating narcolepsy in her moves.  Like turning a leg bar into a nap.  She's obviously worked hard at trying to give some level of legitimacy to the gimmick.

The former Karen Yu is a legit good worker, which makes this all the more sad.  She's killing herself to get this gimmick over and will spend the next 6 months doing so, and then they'll either release her or come to their senses and scrap the gimmick over night, and blame her for it not working.  And yet there's so many of these 22-year old girls with zero experience that they debuted all at once, none of whom I know their names, and they could've given this gimmick to any one of them because at least it would make them more memorable than being "Semi-Hot Inexperienced Girl #6". 

And He-Man had a sword, even that cartoon didn't do anything this goofy.

I can't imagine what feedback Shawn Michaels gives these people.  He's watching this show on the monitor last night, he supposedly loves the direction, and what can he be thinking?  "Hey Mandy, you're really improving since you were sent back down.  That was a great job taking a plate of spaghetti to the hair.  You keep it up and you'll be ready for a match with Ronda Rousey in no time.  Just one piece of advice, when me and Bret used to do this spot, it was more face and less hair, just maybe 15% more.  We can work on that at the PC tomorrow, but you're doing great."  He HAS to know all of this is garbage and can never work in 2022 and he just needs the insurance or something.

The only positive that NXT has done is that it's showing the an "edgier" product means nothing when the bookinng is atrocious.  WWE doesn't suck because it's PG, it sucks because it's WWE.  All the curses and boners in the world aren't helping NXT.  And why they use gimmicks that could only appeal to a toddler but make that the more "mature" product I have no idea.  None of this makes sense unless it's intentional sabotage.  Something is going on with that brand that I can't figure out.



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Kriss wrote: Or maybe Nikkita Lyons, the rapper/singer who sounds like she can't do either.

Nikkita Lyons' gimmick was so bad and her execution maybe even worse that I had to look her up.  The entirety of her wrestling career consists of 10 matches for WOW, the updated GLOW company from a few years ago.  She was known as Faith the Lioness and holds victories over such luminaries as The Beverly Hills Babe, Khloe Hurtz, The Temptress, and Mildred Burke (just checking to see if anyone is reading).  I mean you can find much more attractive and semi-athletic girls at any strip club in the country if that's the way you want to go again, why the hell is Faith the Lioness on my TV? 



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I saw a Lyons vignette on NXT last night and what they showed was dedicated mostly to her martial arts abilities, working with nunchakus and sparring.   There was a clip showing her putting on headphones but I got this vibe mixing Holly Holm with Kate Hudson in Almost Famous.    There is a YouTube clip as well showing her going for a Tae Kwon Do black belt at age 7, so she seems to be more than a gimmick on that front.   She seems to have only  just attended a tryout camp in August 2021, so she must be fast tracked or lights out with her progress so far.   It will be interesting to see if they trained enough of the independent style out of her.   

The YouTube version bleeped out the "shit" that SyFy had no problem airing the night before.   

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Trying to work out how Wendy Choo using someone else's credit card does not get her arrested. Or how it makes her a face.



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kargol wrote: Trying to work out how Wendy Choo using someone else's credit card does not get her arrested. Or how it makes her a face.
The commentators also didn't understand the difference between a card being canceled and maxed out.  On every single level this is one of the worst storylines in WWE history.



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NXT did a record low 400,000 last night, a shockingly low number even given the switch to SyFy. Raw’s number held better than expectations on SyFy but NXT’s was really, really bad.  To put this in perspective, when NXT was switched to SyFy last year, it still drew more than 700,000. 



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This Dolph Ziggler guy who debuted on NXT last night seems like quite a find. A young talent who might make a good IC champion in a few years.



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NXT closes out the 3/1 episode with NXT North American champ Carmelo Hayes successfully defending against Pete Dunne.    I didn't actively watch the show tonight but I did see a number of finishes that don't even seem like a decided push for some of the talent, but more along the lines of putting someone over just to go against what the fanbase might enjoy seeing.   Maybe I'm off-base in that assessment,  but the bell barely sounded and the cameras couldn't help but film the in-ring posturing by Hayes without catching dozens of empty chairs as the crowd made a bee-line for the exits.  They wound up in the aisle filming Hayes' promo for a ladder match on 4/2 staying with an extended length with a solo shot that seemed to be an audible from the production truck.   

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So the talentless former WNBA star Lash Legend almost killed a girl last night, and is so green she didn’t even know it. Amari Miller had to be stretchered out after taking her finish, which is a pretty simple move that she did in an uncontrolled way that sent Miller’s head crashing into the mat and caused spine and head injuries and instantly knocked her out. You can see how hard Miller landed, but other than that nothing is obvious on TV. They cut to a close up of an oblivious Legend talking to the camera and then went to backstage segments. In the meantime, it was a scary scene in the ring as Miller was completely out and needed a neck and back brace before she could be moved. NXT 2.0 is going to have a death or paralysis on their hands really soon if they keep letting untrained garbage play wrestler on TV.



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NXT closes out the 3/1 episode with NXT North American champ Carmelo Hayes successfully defending against Pete Dunne.    I didn't actively watch the show tonight but I did see a number of finishes that don't even seem like a decided push for some of the talent, but more along the lines of putting someone over just to go against what the fanbase might enjoy seeing.   Maybe I'm off-base in that assessment,  but the bell barely sounded and the cameras couldn't help but film the in-ring posturing by Hayes without catching dozens of empty chairs as the crowd made a bee-line for the exits.  They wound up in the aisle filming Hayes' promo for a ladder match on 4/2 staying with an extended length with a solo shot that seemed to be an audible from the production truck.   

Dunne is 28 and Hayes is 27 and Dunne, like all the “old guys”, have been pushed to the curb simply because they were established under HHH, regardless of actual age and certainly not taking into account talent. It’s absurd. Dunne should be one of the bright young stars in the company still with his entire career ahead of him. 



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