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This sounds like a release in the sense that no one is restricted anymore, meaning you're about to see a lot of them on AEW Dark. But it can't be a good sign. ROH still hasn't returned to live crowds after more than a year and a half, not even Sinclair can keep floating a company making 0 dollars.

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PWInsider.com has confirmed with multiple talents who were on today's Ring of Honor Zoom call that they were informed that if their contracts were expiring at the end of the year, they will not be renewed. At that point, they will be free to go work elsewhere.

Talents who have deals beyond 1/1/22 will remain under contract for at least a certain period of time. We have heard March 2021 and/or April 2021, so it is within that window.

Ring of Honor is still slated to tape episodes of their weekly TV series this weekend in Baltimore and the 12/11 Final Battle PPV is still on. That PPV will very much an end-point chapter in Ring of Honor as whatever form the promotion ends up taking going forward will be a very different animal.

We are also told that the promotion does have a venue currently locked in for Wrestlemania weekend 2022 in Dallas, Texas, which would be the announced Supercard of Honor.

Ring of Honor's weekly TV series will continue on during this announced "hiatus", using a mix of archival footage and more.



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It was fun while it lasted, but let's be very honest, AEW took their spot and there was nothing left for them. Since all that talent left in the AEW exodus, and with all top current indy talent appearing on Dark and trying to land there instead of ROH, ROH was left desperately pushing a bunch of dojo guys who had little talent, along with some stalwarts who have been there forever. The weekly show became painful to watch and the periodic PPVs were nothing special, barely surpassing WWE in terms of wrestling action at times and certainly not coming close to AEW or even Impact. The pandemic was the final blow, but that MSG show was the last hurrah as within weeks of that event, the company somehow seemed already dead.  I'm glad it's over (and I hope it really is) because this seems like pulling the plug on a beloved grandma who had been brain dead for 3 years.  I couldn't bear to watch it linger anymore.

Really the only question that remains is where do the Briscoe Bros, Jay Lethal, and Jonathan Gresham go?  That's what's left of their roster.  I imagine they all wind up in AEW because with NXT also dying, this is really bad timing for them to end up there being in their mid-30s.  Just 2 years ago, NXT would've made them competitive offers.

We actually have a mini-2001 all over again.  Then WCW and ECW simultaneously imploded and cleared the field.  Now it's ROH and NXT, which has essentially re-made the indy landscape.  I wonder if something can rise from those ashes because AEW can't take everyone, just like WWE couldn't 20 years ago, and there's going to be a ton of talent who ends up on the outside looking in in the next couple of years alone, some of which are just starting to make a name for themselves.

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There's Impact, MLW, NJPW Strong and NWA all doing weekly TV on a somewhat national level. Plus GCW, PWG starting back up and probably some other indies that I don't know about that have a decent profile. There are definitely places to work.

Are Rush and Dragon Lee going to end up in AEW? I think Andrade wants to bring them in.

Jonathan Gresham is married to Jordynne Grace, so he might end up in Impact.

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Kriss wrote: There's Impact, MLW, NJPW Strong and NWA all doing weekly TV on a somewhat national level. Plus GCW, PWG starting back up and probably some other indies that I don't know about that have a decent profile. There are definitely places to work.

Those really don't have high profiles like past #3s have had.  Impact has been putting on quality shows for some time now, but aside from their AEW deal they really haven't created a peep of buzz in years, and no one is getting paid there.  Really the same thing with MLW and the NWA, very small potatoes.  NJPW Strong uses mostly ROH and MLW talent and it remains to be seen what will happen to it once travel restrictions are fully lifted, but it hardly seems like a long-term option for U.S. indy talent.  GCW and PWG are true indies and neither are filling the gap.  GCW could never get TV or real mainstream exposure with their deathmatch stuff anyway. 

Sure there's always places to work for a beer and a burger, but ROH was legitimately signing guys to exclusive high 6 figure deals and had a syndicated TV network that reached most of the country, in addition to their own streaming service and a FITE TV contract.  The drop-off from that is steep. 

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Forgive me for fantasy booking so quickly, but there's really nothing stopping CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, and Adam Cole from saying goodbye one last time. A final shot of them in the ring with Lethal and the Briscoes would pretty much be the perfect ending.

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At least a dozen ROH talents have tweeted that they are available for bookings immediately and are looking to fill up their schedules for November and December, so we could see some of these guys popping up as early as next week's Dark.

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I actually just found out that the Briscoe Bros. won the GCW Tag titles from Mance Warner and Matthew Justice this weekend. It was their first non-ROH show in America since 2014, if you want to know how rare that is. So maybe they got a heads up.

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Sinclair is in big BIG trouble. They got nailed by the data hackers and it cost them dearly. There were affiliates completely knocked off the air. Paid commercials didn’t run, or did run out of their paid for time period, and Sinclair has been either not getting paid for the spots or is being forced to make good on the spots that were paid for…or they have to issue refunds. The money that they lost, they really didn’t have. The pandemic didn’t hurt them anywhere near as much as the network breach. I saw this coming two months ago, but honestly didn’t think it was as bad as it is. There have been talks within the industry (not wrestling) that Sinclair might not make it, which is a massive change compared with nine months ago.

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Original founder Rob Feinstein has commented:

I have received a ton of emails regarding ROH today and what I would have done different to save the company. A wrestling company needs to be run by people “in” the wrestling business period. It does NOT matter how much money you have, or if you are the best business man in the world, if you do not know how to create a buzz, build talent, create storylines that draw money you are destined to fail.

Sinclair broadcasting has more money than Tony Kahn’s family and that is a fact. The fact is they never really got behind ROH. It was there for them to sell advertising space and for content but as a wrestling company it just never ran like one. They could have had Kenny Omega and signed him after his deal with New Japan was up. They could have had the Young Bucks, Cody all under contracts. ROH could have been AEW but they just didn’t have wrestling minds running the office. They should have locked down so many talents but they choose not to. They had the wrong people running the ship and making wrestling decisions.

This is not a knock on the booker, the wrestlers, or any of the talent that worked there. If the company that is funding ROH was not 100% into making it a full fledged wrestling company it was never going to work. They were happy at status quo. I always knew how much money Sinclair could bring to the table, and I never understood early on why they did not sign major names to contracts, or go after talent that was released that could draw and lock them under contract. It became clear to me that they would never be a solid wrestling company when it comes to making moves in the wrestling world.

They have had a TON of opportunities but let’s be honest the last time they had any buzz was for their MSG NY show and after that it was over. As soon as Cody and the Bucks left they were done. Even long before that I can’t really remember ever hearing anything like you have to see this amazing angle in ROH. They were running shows just to run shows. That Is not saying they were not trying and again this has zero to do with the workers who were probably killing it in the ring.

ROH was built on amazing wrestling matches but that could only go so far. You need storylines to draw and big ones to grow. I just felt that ROH existed on their name over the years and just presented steady quality wrestling shows but for what ever reason they never knew how to create a buzz for themselves. They never did out of the box ideas.

The pandemic effected every company but you can’t blame that for killing your own product. You can only point the blame on yourselves for all of the missed opportunities you had over the years. There was a ton of talent that got to have some great exposure over the last few years and they were able to earn a steady paycheck. I think most of the talent will land on their feet.

The indy scene is going to benefit because now there is a ton of fresh faces to book in 2022. For the sake of the wrestling business I would love to see ROH thrive again if they really do come back with a new business model. My only advice to them is to reinvent your entire company and go back to the basics. Bring in new talent and come up with some really creative angles and create a buzz because that is what ROH was based on.

Let’s be honest though, right now if you want any of that you have AEW. You’re not going to be able to compete with them. ROH needs to really come back with a different mindset and they have to be in it to win it. Being second best is boring and no fun. If you are competing and trying to be #1 and actually trying to grow your company fans will see that and follow your product as long as you give them a product to follow. If the fans see you are just trying to run shows for the sake of running shows, they will see right thru that too.

To coin a show that I named along with Doug Gentry and Gabe Sapolsky on May 31st 2003 now is the time for ROH to “Do or Die”

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GCW has already announced that they’re bringing in ROH World champion Bandido.

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srossi wrote: Original founder Rob Feinstein has commented:



Sinclair broadcasting has more money than Tony Kahn’s family and that is a fact.
Sorry, this is not a correct statement.  Sinclair's 'money' is tied up in assets that have been leveraged to the max with loans.  Their cash reserves were lost during the pandemic and after the data hack a few months ago they were hurt badly.  This is Feinstein trying to let people know how important he was to the business, nothing more than sour grapes.  Maybe ROH was mismanaged, but that's not the reason they are on hiatus.  They told the truth - they paid their talent through the pandemic.  But this "reimagining of the product" is simply that Sinclair is hurting right now and they can't be bothered trying to run ROH when they are having an extremely hard time running the business aspect.  They can show ROH repeats or best of shows in the time slots that run the program.   I wouldn't be surprised to hear by April that Sinclair is getting purchased by another media entity, or that ROH and it's tape vault got sold to another wrestling entity.

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Sinclair broadcasting has more money than Tony Kahn’s family and that is a fact.
Sorry, this is not a correct statement.  Sinclair's 'money' is tied up in assets that have been leveraged to the max with loans.  Their cash reserves were lost during the pandemic and after the data hack a few months ago they were hurt badly.  This is Feinstein trying to let people know how important he was to the business, nothing more than sour grapes.  Maybe ROH was mismanaged, but that's not the reason they are on hiatus.  They told the truth - they paid their talent through the pandemic.  But this "reimagining of the product" is simply that Sinclair is hurting right now and they can't be bothered trying to run ROH when they are having an extremely hard time running the business aspect.  They can show ROH repeats or best of shows in the time slots that run the program.   I wouldn't be surprised to hear by April that Sinclair is getting purchased by another media entity, or that ROH and it's tape vault got sold to another wrestling entity.

I don’t think he’s talking about now. He’s talking about at any other point in the last decade. 

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Meltzer reporting that when ROH returns in April they re just going to run like an indy and book whichever freelancers are available. Just like NWA is just three letters now, the same has happened to ROH.

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Kriss wrote: Meltzer reporting that when ROH returns in April they re just going to run like an indy and book whichever freelancers are available. Just like NWA is just three letters now, the same has happened to ROH.This could be an opportunity for Corgan to build up the NWA like he was trying to do pre pandemic.  Maybe even work with ROH if Sinclair ever gets themselves straightened out.

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Kriss wrote: Meltzer reporting that when ROH returns in April they re just going to run like an indy and book whichever freelancers are available. Just like NWA is just three letters now, the same has happened to ROH.
There’s no point in them even continuing like that. Just sell the library to WWE and end it. 

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srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: Meltzer reporting that when ROH returns in April they re just going to run like an indy and book whichever freelancers are available. Just like NWA is just three letters now, the same has happened to ROH.
There’s no point in them even continuing like that. Just sell the library to WWE and end it. 

There's going to be an AEW streaming service soon. That's where ROH should be.

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This news bums me out; While ROH hasn't been great it has been consistently entertaining to me and most of all easily accessible. At this point in my life I can't be bothered to have to commit to an air time or a crap service like B/R now that my son is capable of pushing the buttons.


ROH running like a normal Indy doesn't bother me as it might in fact make it more interesting. I currently find MLW to be entertaining and they seem to be full of freelancers.



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Franchise wrote: This news bums me out; While ROH hasn't been great it has been consistently entertaining to me and most of all easily accessible. At this point in my life I can't be bothered to have to commit to an air time or a crap service like B/R now that my son is capable of pushing the buttons.


ROH running like a normal Indy doesn't bother me as it might in fact make it more interesting. I currently find MLW to be entertaining and they seem to be full of freelancers.




MLW signs talent to non-exclusive or first-refusal contracts.  They have a bunch of guys under deals.  And Jacob Fatu in particular is locked up despite a lot of interest from WWE and AEW.

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Meltzer says the Briscoe Bros. may have trouble landing contracts in WWE or AEW due to their past “homophobic” remarks. The ship has probably sailed on WWE anyway since they’ve turned them down several times and NXT is no longer a very realistic option given its shift in direction. FTR immediately challenged them as soon as they became available, but AEW might fear online blow-back and not want to touch them. The Briscoes are legitimate multi-millionaires from their farming and construction businesses, and have been pocketing high 6 figure contracts from ROH for years that they claim they’ve never even touched because they live off of their day jobs. They are nearing 40, so they could just walk away from wrestling and just do shows once a month for fun if they get the itch. They will not be desperate for bookings.

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srossi wrote: Meltzer says the Briscoe Bros. may have trouble landing contracts in WWE or AEW due to their past “homophobic” remarks. The ship has probably sailed on WWE anyway since they’ve turned them down several times and NXT is no longer a very realistic option given its shift in direction. FTR immediately challenged them as soon as they became available, but AEW might fear online blow-back and not want to touch them. The Briscoes are legitimate multi-millionaires from their farming and construction businesses, and have been pocketing high 6 figure contracts from ROH for years that they claim they’ve never even touched because they live off of their day jobs. They are nearing 40, so they could just walk away from wrestling and just do shows once a month for fun if they get the itch. They will not be desperate for bookings.

They won the GCW tag title a couple of weeks ago, which was their first non-ROH match for something like six years. Given that they look like rejects from a Bumfights DVD, there's zero chance of them ever getting into WWE, let alone their past comments on anything.

They have to headline their December show with Briscoe vs Briscoe in a 60 minute draw, surely. It's the only fitting way to go out.

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A few Ring of Honor notes to clarify some confusion:

CONTRACTS:

*No talents have been released from their contracts yet. Those who have deals running through the end of the year are under contract until that point and will be paid their full salary through 12/31.

*Those with deals running into 2022 will remain under contract until March or April, receiving their full salary until the point they will receive a release.

*All talents who wish to do so have been given permission to go work independent dates immediately if they don't conflict with November's TV tapings and the 12/11 Final Battle PPV. Obviously, every wrestler wants to wrestle, so they are all going to do that to make as much cash as they can. To a person, they all realize they are hitting a crowded open market and are doing what they can to be ahead of the game in the race for bookings.

TAPE LIBRARY:

*I am not sure where this started but Sinclair Broadcast Group purchased the rights to whatever the 2002-2011 ROH tape library contained when they bought the company from Cary Silkin. We have gotten some emails about whether they actually owned the content prior to 2011, but considering they have utilized it many times for compilation DVDs and YouTube, they obviously have the rights. If they didn't, Cary Silkin could have made himself a mint selling it off to WWE or even AEW and that hasn't happened.

*In regard to potential sale of the library, Joe Koff stated in our interview this past Wednesday that there are no conversations and no interest in selling the library. We have heard stories of different discussions in the past, but that doesn't mean it's currently talking place. Of course, things can always change tomorrow, but if we are going to take Koff at his word, there's no current sale discussions right now..

THE FUTURE:

We are told by numerous Ring of Honor talents that on the Zoom call this week, numerous talents called upon Joe Koff to tell them that the promotion was over if it was actually closing. During the call, Koff repeatedly told them that the company would continue on and resume live events in April.

The complete roster is booked for the November TV tapings per usual.

*There had been plans to bring in several GCW talents to wrestle The Briscoes at the TV tapings in Baltimore as a way to extend the storyline where the Briscoes won the GCW Tag Team titles but there is no word whether that is still happening.

*Tickets for the Final Battle PPV, which will be the last event for this incarnation of Ring of Honor, will go on sale for the public on Friday 11/5 at 10 AM EST on Ticketmaster.com. Tickets are already on sale for Honor Club subscribers.

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More terrible ROH news as Danhausen has announced that he broke his leg in 2 places. Danhausen has been the best new addition to ROH in the past year, and now obviously will not be able to be a part of the final shows. It was strongly suspected that Danhausen would wind up in AEW sooner rather than later, and he still might, but first he needs to recover.

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Jay Lethal is All Elite as just announced on PPV. Lethal vs. Sammy Guevara for the TNT title on Dynamite on Wednesday. Lethal’s AEW theme music is a remix of Randy Savage’s and he did a little Ric Flair impersonation when taking to Tony Schiavone. 

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Jay Lethal announced post-show last night that he is full-time with AEW and completely done with ROH. He will not be at Final Battle or any other ROH shows going forward. It’s a sad end to Lethal’s ROH career as he had his last match without him or the fans realizing it. Perhaps no one other than Jay Briscoe ever meant as much to that company or had the longevity he had there, and it ended very abruptly with a social media announcement about everyone being released and with no farewell.

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Jonathan Gresham announced that he is starting a new promotion called Terminus: Modern Age Grappling, with its debut show set for Jan. 16 in Atlanta.

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srossi wrote: I actually just found out that the Briscoe Bros. won the GCW Tag titles from Mance Warner and Matthew Justice this weekend. It was their first non-ROH show in America since 2014, if you want to know how rare that is. So maybe they got a heads up.
Effy and A.J. Gray came to ROH on their penultimate show to challenge the Briscoes for the GCW Tag titles, and lost.  One of the really interesting things about the match was the commentators putting over Jay Briscoe as "a changed man", alluding to his past homophobic comments, while in the ring with Effy, who is openly gay and runs "Effy's Big Gay Brunch" event annually.  They mentioned several times how Effy has earned Jay's respect, without ever coming out and saying what they're trying to say, and Jay almost exclusively worked with Effy while Mark worked with Gray.  After the match, Jay and Effy shook hands and Jay gave him the nod of respect.  Meltzer had mentioned a few weeks ago that the Briscoes might have trouble getting signed after ROH goes under because of those comments, so it looks like ROH and Effy did this match specifically to help him put that behind him and find work.  It's odd that in a match in which Jay is beating Effy half to death with a chair that that's a sign of progressiveness, but wrestling is a strange world.    

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Effy must have a pretty good reputation in the business because Matt Cardona dropped his Internet belt to Effy about a month ago, and won it back in a return match. He had NEVER defended and lost his own created championship before this.

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Superstar wrote: Effy must have a pretty good reputation in the business because Matt Cardona dropped his Internet belt to Effy about a month ago, and won it back in a return match. He had NEVER defended and lost his own created championship before this.
I had never seen him wrestle before this ROH match this weekend, but he’s one of probably 5 guys that you always hear about from the indies who hasn’t worked for a major promotion yet. I’m sure he’ll wind up in at least MLW if not AEW. A shame his first ROH match is about a month before they shut down. 

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On this week’s ROH TV, they teased a break-up of The Foundation when The Righteous very obviously took out-of-context video of Jay Lethal saying he doesn’t care about them. I wonder where that was going and how much they have in the can before Lethal leaves.

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New ROH Tag champions Matt Taven and Mike Bennett will defend their titles on the next NWA PPV, Hard Times 2, on Dec. 4 against Aron Stevens and J.R. Kratos. This will take place a week before they defend the belts at Final Battle against the Briscoe Bros. in what will likely be the last defense of the belts as we know them.

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srossi wrote: New ROH Tag champions Matt Taven and Mike Bennett will defend their titles on the next NWA PPV, Hard Times 2, on Dec. 4 against Aron Stevens and J.R. Kratos. This will take place a week before they defend the belts at Final Battle against the Briscoe Bros. in what will likely be the last defense of the belts as we know them.
Rhett Titus now announced you take on Austin Aries on this PPV as well. ROH’s demise is helping the NWA fill a whole card. 

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Streaming this weekend, Jay Lethal will have his final ROH match ever, facing EC3. This was obviously taped before ROH cut all contracts and Lethal signed with AEW. This one is truly the end of an era for long-time ROH fans.

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srossi wrote: srossi wrote: New ROH Tag champions Matt Taven and Mike Bennett will defend their titles on the next NWA PPV, Hard Times 2, on Dec. 4 against Aron Stevens and J.R. Kratos. This will take place a week before they defend the belts at Final Battle against the Briscoe Bros. in what will likely be the last defense of the belts as we know them.
Rhett Titus now announced you take on Austin Aries on this PPV as well. ROH’s demise is helping the NWA fill a whole card. 


That's some show they are putting on. Trevor Murdoch vs Mike Knox in PPV main event in 2021.

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srossi wrote: srossi wrote: New ROH Tag champions Matt Taven and Mike Bennett will defend their titles on the next NWA PPV, Hard Times 2, on Dec. 4 against Aron Stevens and J.R. Kratos. This will take place a week before they defend the belts at Final Battle against the Briscoe Bros. in what will likely be the last defense of the belts as we know them.
Rhett Titus now announced you take on Austin Aries on this PPV as well. ROH’s demise is helping the NWA fill a whole card.
I believe this was the angle that I took about a month ago somewhere in this thread.  With AEW being pretty much at capacity, WWE letting people go for sneezing during group meetings, and Impact having to count their cash before putting on a TV taping...the only "bigger small places" are GCW and the NWA.  And with NWA having PPVs, I would think that would be the preferred way to go rather than wrestling on a canvas that has been bled on five hundred times.  Billy Corgan lost so much with the pandemic, and he can get back twice as much as he lost (and better talent to boot) and could possibly make a run with the NWA.  I mean, people seem to enjoy it because we still talk about it and they still have people show up.  I don't know how much tickets cost to the show but they drew a couple hundred people to the St Louis show and the people didn't look like indy wrestling fans - they looked to be somewhat more sophisticated (almost like Corgan hand picked the audience).   There was a time we were talking about how could he survive with Jocephus dying and another one of his bigger guys going to AEW.  But that Kamille girl that can't wrestle a lick has a great look, and if you have a great look you can get by.  And with all of this WWE and ROH talent walking around, Corgan could hand pick his roster and as long as he can break even on things after paying the talent, this will last a long time.  Corgan doesn't have the money that Tony Khan has but he has enough in the bank where he can pretty much run the NWA how he wants to for as long as he wants to.  I just wish the fucker would bring back NWA Classics on Demand.  That was the best video service ever.

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I would anticipate Mike Bennett, and maybe Matt Taven too, will wind up in the NWA full-time. Bennett’s first post-WWE shows were with the NWA. Taven is such a weird case because he won the ROH World title at MSG and has always gotten a huge push, but he’s the most indy of the indies and there’s never any buzz around him. He’d be absolutely lost in AEW with dozens of more talented and over performers above him. WWE obviously isn’t an option. Impact is starting to near capacity themselves, but you never know because they make odd choices (No Way Jose who’s already gone, Steve Maclin who they’re somehow making work there). But I think maybe the NWA would be good for him.  Anyway, there’s something to be said about right place, right time. Taven is always going to have that iconic picture of him standing atop a ladder at MSG holding that title in front of 20,000 fans. That’s something a million indy guys would kill for, and it could’ve been any of them, but it wasn’t. 

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srossi wrote: I would anticipate Mike Bennett, and maybe Matt Taven too, will wind up in the NWA full-time. Bennett’s first post-WWE shows were with the NWA. Taven is such a weird case because he won the ROH World title at MSG and has always gotten a huge push, but he’s the most indy of the indies and there’s never any buzz around him. He’d be absolutely lost in AEW with dozens of more talented and over performers above him. WWE obviously isn’t an option. Impact is starting to near capacity themselves, but you never know because they make odd choices (No Way Jose who’s already gone, Steve Maclin who they’re somehow making work there). But I think maybe the NWA would be good for him.  Anyway, there’s something to be said about right place, right time. Taven is always going to have that iconic picture of him standing atop a ladder at MSG holding that title in front of 20,000 fans. That’s something a million indy guys would kill for, and it could’ve been any of them, but it wasn’t. Taven isn't very charismatic, nor am I sure that he is smart enough to spell his name.  I met him once, well honestly my kids did as I didn't really care.  There was a Shawn Michaels autograph signing and it was run by Northeast Wrestling, and Taven was their strapholder at the time.  It was like 10AM on a Saturday morning and he showed up basically in his ring gear but jeans on the bottom.  He looked like he was out all night blowing his paycheck up his nose.  Like, he honestly had no business walking through the line shaking peoples' hands the way he looked.  And I've seen him wrestle, he's "good" but there is something missing, almost mechanical.  I thought he would fit with WWE really well because he's not good enough to be any good, so they would force their style on him and he would adapt and thrive.  But that was 2011 and now is 2021 and he's 10 years and a couple of knee surgeries older.  I don't think he translates to Impact, but again not sure how he acts behind the scenes.  I've heard he's all about Matt and not about getting the product over. 

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The Briscoes Bros. stepped up their social media game in the last 12 hours, telling Tony Khan to call them, calling out The Usos, and releasing a video saying they're coming to a town near you to beat up your local indy heroes.

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ROH champion Bandido has tested positive for Covid and is off Final Battle. Talk about the worst case scenario for ROH. They can’t catch a break. A new opponent will be named to face Jonathan Gresham, presumably for the vacant title.

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PWInsider reports that the original plan was for Mike Bennett and Matt Taven to come to the NWA for a cross-over angle with ROH that would’ve saw them feuding with Nick Aldis and Doug Williams in both companies. With ROH going on hiatus and Bennett and Taven now looking for work, Billy Corgan decided to just bring them in to work NWA shows for the time being. It’s expected they’ll still wrestle Aldis and Williams, but now exclusively in the NWA.  Corgan already used Bennett shortly after his WWE no-compete ended and he wanted to help him out by giving him some bookings, including on the recent NWA PPV where they successfully defended the ROH Tag titles against Aron Stevens and JR Kratos with ROH’s blessing. 

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Today Tony Khan announced that he’s planning on supporting ROH and helping out for Final Battle. With one half of he main event out due to Covid, he’s sending Jay Lethal back to ROH one last time to face his former tag partner Jonathan Gresham.  ROH couldn’t have asked for a better scenario. You honestly have to wonder if Bandido even really has Covid. ROH will address the status of the title during the pre-show. 

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I'll agree with the earlier note that Matt Taven never seemed like much, but having sat down with him and Mike Bennett at the recent NWA taping for a Q&A, the dude is full of charisma and is hilarious. No idea why it doesn't translate.

NWA is definitely benefiting from the ROH shutdown -- but it WAS in the works prior to the announcement, as confirmed by Bennett and Taven.

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Watching the pre-show and Bandido has vacated the title and Lethal vs. Gresham will now be for the title. They brought back the original belt from 2002 which will be on the line.

They’re not giving much hope for a future right now. Lethal said it could be a match to crown a final champion. The commentary is pretty much a post-mortem name-dropping everyone in talking about the history of the company: Gave Sapolsky, Adam Pearce, Dave Prazak, Roderick Strong, Low-Ki, even sending thoughts and prayers out to the Hardy Boyz. 

Effusive thanks to Tony Khan too, who seems to demand it and criticized the NWA for not putting him over more.  Also putting over Impact, NJPW, the NWA, and GCW really trying to give props to everyone from over the years and promote current projects like NJPW Strong. 

Rocky Romero is back tonight too. 

This really feels like the end. 

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Well it wasn't the best show from a technical standpoint in ROH history, but they did everything they could under the circumstances to make this a memorable show full of surprises and to give some closure.

FTR came out to brawl with the Briscoes, Deonna Purazzo challenged Rok-C to come to Impact or AAA to face her, and Braun Strowman joined EC3 to beat down the young lions of ROH.

In addition, there were pre-recorded comments taped and sent in from Eddie Edwards, Jimmy Jacobs, Adam Page, Adam Cole, CM Punk, the Young Bucks, and Bryan Danielson.

The Briscoes became 12-time ROH Tag champs, Jonathan Gresham finally won the ROH World title, and they gave Rhett Titus the TV title for his 16 years of service.

They heavily promoted AEW, Impact, the NWA, GCW, and NJPW Strong, including times, channels, websites, and upcoming events, and weren't very shy about heavily mentioning WWE and NXT either, so at times it felt more like an infomercial for other wrestling companies, but it was very clear that they're not sure if they're ever coming back despite ending the show with a graphic saying April 2022.

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Malakai Black whispered "You're more than a king" to the unseen hooded figure on Dynamite last night.

In unrelated news, Brody King has reportedly signed with AEW.

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Impact used ROH footage to show the Deonna Purrazzo-Rok-C confrontation from Final Battle. Interesting that AEW never mentioned any of their cross-overs.

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srossi wrote: Impact used ROH footage to show the Deonna Purrazzo-Rok-C confrontation from Final Battle. Interesting that AEW never mentioned any of their cross-overs.

Josh Woods was on Dark this week, and they didn't mention ROH. When Woods offered a handshake, Shawn Spears said "We don't do that here." 

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Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: Impact used ROH footage to show the Deonna Purrazzo-Rok-C confrontation from Final Battle. Interesting that AEW never mentioned any of their cross-overs.

Josh Woods was on Dark this week, and they didn't mention ROH. When Woods offered a handshake, Shawn Spears said "We don't do that here." 

Woods was getting really good at the end there with ROH. It sucks that he’s jobbing to Shawn Spears now. 

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srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: Impact used ROH footage to show the Deonna Purrazzo-Rok-C confrontation from Final Battle. Interesting that AEW never mentioned any of their cross-overs.

Josh Woods was on Dark this week, and they didn't mention ROH. When Woods offered a handshake, Shawn Spears said "We don't do that here." 

Woods was getting really good at the end there with ROH. It sucks that he’s jobbing to Shawn Spears now. 


It wasn't a squash though. A good back and forth 5 minute match like an old Velocity match.

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Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: Impact used ROH footage to show the Deonna Purrazzo-Rok-C confrontation from Final Battle. Interesting that AEW never mentioned any of their cross-overs.

Josh Woods was on Dark this week, and they didn't mention ROH. When Woods offered a handshake, Shawn Spears said "We don't do that here." 

Woods was getting really good at the end there with ROH. It sucks that he’s jobbing to Shawn Spears now. 


It wasn't a squash though. A good back and forth 5 minute match like an old Velocity match.

AEW rarely squashes guys. They’ve given good spots even to guys I’ve never heard of. I will track that match down though. 

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srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: Impact used ROH footage to show the Deonna Purrazzo-Rok-C confrontation from Final Battle. Interesting that AEW never mentioned any of their cross-overs.

Josh Woods was on Dark this week, and they didn't mention ROH. When Woods offered a handshake, Shawn Spears said "We don't do that here." 

Woods was getting really good at the end there with ROH. It sucks that he’s jobbing to Shawn Spears now. 


It wasn't a squash though. A good back and forth 5 minute match like an old Velocity match.

AEW rarely squashes guys. They’ve given good spots even to guys I’ve never heard of. I will track that match down though. 

It should be at the right point here, if not, the match is at 51:15

https://youtu.be/Yi6Mo4CHwRw?t=3076

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Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: Impact used ROH footage to show the Deonna Purrazzo-Rok-C confrontation from Final Battle. Interesting that AEW never mentioned any of their cross-overs.

Josh Woods was on Dark this week, and they didn't mention ROH. When Woods offered a handshake, Shawn Spears said "We don't do that here." 

Woods was getting really good at the end there with ROH. It sucks that he’s jobbing to Shawn Spears now. 


It wasn't a squash though. A good back and forth 5 minute match like an old Velocity match.

AEW rarely squashes guys. They’ve given good spots even to guys I’ve never heard of. I will track that match down though. 

It should be at the right point here, if not, the match is at 51:15

https://youtu.be/Yi6Mo4CHwRw?t=3076

"Woods has been on quite a tear on the independent scene."  I don't understand why the "smart" company is saying shit like that.  He's the ROH Pure champion, he doesn't need to come out with the belt or anything, but that was stupid. 

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Woods was hoping to get a match with Danielson. I read an article that he said that because when he was training for his comeback, Matt Bloom assigned him to Bryan and said "if you injure him, you are fired". So they worked together to get him in shape for his last really big run in the E. I fully understand why Tony Khan wouldn't want to "promote" ROH, but hell - he should be thinking ahead. This could be his shot at buying the ROH library and offering maybe the Dark and Elevation shows to Sinclair as cheap content or free content in exchange for the video library. And he would make some fresh matchups as well. Pretty sure all the guys still have their belts in their possession, why the hell not try something? Sinclair has been absolutely BLEEDING CASH since their data breach, they can't afford to run ROH right now, so sell the library and then also cut a deal that won't interfere with the TBS/TNT deal that AEW has.

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Joe Koff has vowed that ROH will return and they have dates confirmed for Wrestlemania weekend. He said they never said they were "shutting down" and that fans and even the talent were assuming the worst. He still has every intention of carrying on as a normal indy without contracts for the foreseeable future once the relaunch happens, and hopes that this will include title defenses by all the current champions.

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Impact has announced that Jonathan Gresham will make his debut at the Hard to Kill PPV and defend the ROH World title against Chris Sabin.

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Gresham will also defend the ROH title at the debut Terminus event in January against AEW’s Lee Moriarty. Terminus is the new company that Gresham founded himself. 

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Gresham is now billing himself as the ROH Pure World Champion, with the belt he won at Final Battle, while Bandido is going to defend the belt he never lost as the ROH World Heavyweight Champion.

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Kriss wrote: Gresham is now billing himself as the ROH Pure World Champion, with the belt he won at Final Battle, while Bandido is going to defend the belt he never lost as the ROH World Heavyweight Champion.
Josh Woods is the Pure champion so that doesn’t make much sense. If ROH ever relaunches and can get them booked, then Gresham vs. Bandido is the obvious match to come back with. 

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Gresham now defending against 2 Cold Scorpio for the belt at a GCW show on Jan. 15. The ROH title is being defended 10 times as often now that the company has gone out of business than before.

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srossi wrote: Gresham now defending against 2 Cold Scorpio for the belt at a GCW show on Jan. 15. The ROH title is being defended 10 times as often now that the company has gone out of business than before.

ROH should spend a couple of bucks and buy the footage from these promotions or send a camera guy and use these to air on TV as well as any other title defenses that happen between now and the restart. 


I'm not glad ROH ran into trouble or that they are taking a few months off to reset but they really needed something to happen to freshen up. I've been muscling thru shows off and on for a few years now waiting for something interesting and its never happened. Maybe not having long term contracts and running with the hot hand can do that for them. 

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Last week was a “top prospect” edition of the show, featuring unknowns. This week was their usual Christmas 10-man tag with randomly drawn teams. Neither show is of any consequence and both were taped before Final Battle. I imagine next week will be a Best Of 2021 show and then the TV show is off the air. 

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Last week was a “top prospect” edition of the show, featuring unknowns. This week was their usual Christmas 10-man tag with randomly drawn teams. Neither show is of any consequence and both were taped before Final Battle. I imagine next week will be a Best Of 2021 show and then the TV show is off the air. 

I believe the episode that just dropped on Fite TV with the Christmas 10-man tag is actually the last episode. They’re saying goodbye basically. I don’t think they’re doing a Best Of and are ending it with the last week of 2021. 

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Meltzer is reporting that Impact is likely to re-sign, or already has, Mike Bennet and Maria Kanellis. Bennett previously had a run in TNA in 2016-2017, winning the X Division title.  They canceled an indy appearance that conflicted with Impact tapings in early 2022. This would prematurely end Bennett’s run in the NWA and it would leave Matt Taven in limbo.

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srossi wrote: Meltzer is reporting that Impact is likely to re-sign, or already has, Mike Bennet and Maria Kanellis. Bennett previously had a run in TNA in 2016-2017, winning the X Division title.  They canceled an indy appearance that conflicted with Impact tapings in early 2022. This would prematurely end Bennett’s run in the NWA and it would leave Matt Taven in limbo.I can't think this will end his NWA deal the way all of the other places have been really good working with TNA.  If they pulled this shit, the way they did a few years back when they pulled all of their talent from ROH due to them being "competition", it would keep workers from wanting to pull their payday from Impact.  It's not like they are running enough of a promotion that they can afford to pay full time wages to the talent.  They are pretty much only running TV tapings and an odd PPV.  If they want to cut off their nose to spite their face, they'll pull that type of shit with Bennett and Kenellis.  Otherwise it will be business as usual.

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ROH has apparently closed shop on providing new content for their website today.  What appears to be final pieces were posted on NYE.

ROH aired the final installment of Flip Gordon's angle where he's throwing a 2019 NYE party because he has amnesia.  In the final scene, Flip is wondering where everyone is and the lights go out.

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Caprice Coleman also wrote his final blog on the site:

I want to thank Ring of Honor for giving me this platform to inspire others.

In my 11 years here, they've kept their promise in allowing me to be me. This is the core of Ring of Honor; creative freedom and unforced ideas.

I am a black Christian athlete unashamed of my culture and faith. This has been a hangup for some in the past because I have no problem with saying no and walking away with my head up.

The world has changed for the better right in front of my eyes. Now we live in a world in which anything is possible. Eyes and doors are open for all.

Some believe this is it for Ring of Honor. It’s not. Even if it was, there’s solidarity in knowing that if they were going down, they were going down swinging for us, the talent.

Thank you for letting us entertain and hopefully inspire or challenge you.

Now I take the walk into uncertainty knowing certainly that I am going to be fine and fully expecting great things in the future.

I also want to thank you, the reader, for supporting my articles; some of you've supported me throughout my career. Until we meet again.

I love you all, and yes, God is still good.

Please keep an eye out for me and my future endeavors.

Just something to think about. I call it a dose of Colemanism.

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It didn't get much publicity, but I'm sure most have heard by now that there was an ROH "invasion" angle at Impact's Hard to Kill PPV.

The regularly scheduled match was  ROH champion Jonathan Gresham successfully defending the title in a pure rules match against Chris Sabin, which had been previously advertised. There was a great callback here as Sabin earned an ROH title shot in 2018 that he never cashed in before leaving, so he finally got it. Commentator Ian Riccaboni and ring announcer Bobby Cruise were used for the match.

But then later in the show, an ROH faction comprised of Matt Taven, Mike Bennett, Maria Kanellis, PCO, and Vincent jumped the rail and attacked everyone after a 10-man hardcore match. Scott D'Amore was flustered backstage and said he was going to "call Baltimore" and find out what their problem is. The angle continued at the TV tapings that will air over the next few weeks with the faction attacking commentator D-Lo Brown and other wrestlers.

So it seems that Impact and ROH are fully working together for the time being. Of course the talents are all free to work wherever they want at this point, but Impact wouldn't be able to use the ROH name and title without a working agreement.

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Bryan Alvarez reported that the deal with anyone promoting an ROH title match is that they have to make the footage available for ROH to use. I don't know if this counts for both Gresham and Bandido, or just Gresham. I think ROH TV is continuing right now, and these matches will be on the show. He also said that only the World title, women's title and tag title are going to continue, and that the Pure, TV and 6-Man titles are being retired.

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Kriss wrote: Bryan Alvarez reported that the deal with anyone promoting an ROH title match is that they have to make the footage available for ROH to use. I don't know if this counts for both Gresham and Bandido, or just Gresham. I think ROH TV is continuing right now, and these matches will be on the show. He also said that only the World title, women's title and tag title are going to continue, and that the Pure, TV and 6-Man titles are being retired.How in blue hell do you promote a World Championship without any wrestlers under contract?  You know how quickly one of their belts is going to get held up by the wrestler in order to secure a better payday from them?  Or start showing up on WWF TV with Heenan holding it comparing Ice Cream to Cow Manure?  Oh sorry about that...damn flashbacks!

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In tonight’s Impact main event, Deonna Purrazzo beat Rok-C to win the ROH Women’s title and defend the AAA Reina de Reinas title. It was easily the best match of Rok-C’s career, but interesting that they took the belt off of her already for an Impact wrestler.

After the match, Maria led the ROH invasion faction into the ring to attack Deonna. Her partner Matt Rehwoldt (the former Aiden English) ran in to save her but was beaten down. Willie Mack and Rich Swann then ran in and were also beaten like they were at the Hard to Kill PPV.

Earlier in the tonight, the ROH crew took out announcer D-Lo Brown to kick off the show and staged backstage attacks on Eddie Edwards, Rhino, and Heath Slater. The story is that Jonathan Gresham and Rok-C are there representing ROH but the others are “going rogue”.

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srossi wrote: In tonight’s Impact main event, Deonna Purrazzo beat Rok-C to win the ROH Women’s title and defend the AAA Reina de Reinas title. It was easily the best match of Rok-C’s career, but interesting that they took the belt off of her already for an Impact wrestler.
Rok-C's performance on camera with Mickie James on Impact might be the worst speaking performance I've ever seen in wrestling. She came off like a nervous little girl. No excuse for that because Impact isn't live. Hide her weaknesses! If she couldn't do a good take, just cut it, she's not Vince McMahon. I had zero interest in seeing her wrestle after that, and it's not like she stinks in the ring. That segment didn't even further any storylines. Mind-boggling, unless they were trying to bury her, which I sincerely doubt.

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Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: In tonight’s Impact main event, Deonna Purrazzo beat Rok-C to win the ROH Women’s title and defend the AAA Reina de Reinas title. It was easily the best match of Rok-C’s career, but interesting that they took the belt off of her already for an Impact wrestler.
Rok-C's performance on camera with Mickie James on Impact might be the worst speaking performance I've ever seen in wrestling. She came off like a nervous little girl. No excuse for that because Impact isn't live. Hide her weaknesses! If she couldn't do a good take, just cut it, she's not Vince McMahon. I had zero interest in seeing her wrestle after that, and it's not like she stinks in the ring. That segment didn't even further any storylines. Mind-boggling, unless they were trying to bury her, which I sincerely doubt.

That's been every promo she's ever done.  That's her.  You could do 100 takes and that's what you get.

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Ring of Honor has released this past weekend's Women's division documentary episode of their weekly TV series online via their website for free:

Behind the scenes look at the ROH Women’s World Title Tournament

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— ROH Wrestling (@ringofhonor) January 17, 2022

The episode is one of the all-time best ROH TV episodes since the series came to the Sinclair Broadcast Group, with some incredibly deep and emotional moments featuring Rok-C, Trish Adora and Miranda Alize, among others. The only downside is that the doc was only one ROH episode in length. It is far and away well worth going out of your way to check out.

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ROH officially announced their re-launch on April 1 at Supercard of Honor with a main event of Jonathan Gresham vs. Bandido to settle the dispute over the 2 ROH champions.

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There are two forthcoming books that will catch the attention of Ring of Honor fans, past and present.

Jonathan Snowden, who penned the excellent Ken Shamrock book that was released in May 2020, is teaming with former ROH and current AEW staffer Shane Hagadorn to write a book about the history and legacy of the promotion. They recently signed a deal for the book and are in the early process of working on the project, so it won't be something that is released fairly soon but is coming down the line.

Of course, as we reported earlier this month, Ring of Honor Ambassador and former owner Cary Silkin has been working on a memoir about his life in ROH and beyond that is expected to be released within the next year as well. Silkin has been working on that project for a long time.

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ROH has announced that when they will return it will be with a HOF. Announcements for the 1st class will begin on Monday.

It will be interesting to see if ROH can work with WWE to get anyone to return though. AEW shouldn't be an issue, I wouldn't imagine.

I think an easy first class is Samoa Joe (now a free agent), Low-Ki, the Briscoes, and Jay Lethal, but we'll see in what direction they go.  Obviously all are available except Lethal, who AEW should have no problem loaning out again for the ceremony.

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srossi wrote: ROH has announced that when they will return it will be with a HOF. Announcements for the 1st class will begin on Monday.

It will be interesting to see if ROH can work with WWE to get anyone to return though. AEW shouldn't be an issue, I wouldn't imagine.

I think an easy first class is Samoa Joe (now a free agent), Low-Ki, the Briscoes, and Jay Lethal, but we'll see in what direction they go.  Obviously all are available except Lethal, who AEW should have no problem loaning out again for the ceremony.

Everyone from the main event of the Era of Honor Begins should be inducted in the first class. I don't see any problem with having Bryan Danielson and Christopher Daniels there. In a perfect world, the three of them would wrestle again.

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Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: ROH has announced that when they will return it will be with a HOF. Announcements for the 1st class will begin on Monday.

It will be interesting to see if ROH can work with WWE to get anyone to return though. AEW shouldn't be an issue, I wouldn't imagine.

I think an easy first class is Samoa Joe (now a free agent), Low-Ki, the Briscoes, and Jay Lethal, but we'll see in what direction they go.  Obviously all are available except Lethal, who AEW should have no problem loaning out again for the ceremony.

Everyone from the main event of the Era of Honor Begins should be inducted in the first class. I don't see any problem with having Bryan Danielson and Christopher Daniels there. In a perfect world, the three of them would wrestle again.

I was thinking those two for next year, but I'd be OK with that.  The Briscoes and Lethal may be too contemporary for a first class, although based on longevity no one deserves it more.  If they just went with Low-Ki, Danielson, and Daniels I doubt anyone would complain, although I would lock up Joe sooner rather than later just in case he becomes unavailable in future years. 

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There are actually quite a few guys they can go through before even getting to current WWE contracted talent. Someone like Austin Aries, Homicide, I bet Larry Sweeney gets in posthumously, Paul London probably deserves it for his early work.  But like any HOF, they can run into the issue of inducting too many minor indy guys or some big names whose greatest success came after ROH,  For example, I'd induct Jimmy Jacobs before Tyler Black (Seth Rollins).  Yeah, Rollins did briefly hold the title in ROH, but he was never really a top guy or all that important to the company long-term.

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srossi wrote: There are actually quite a few guys they can go through before even getting to current WWE contracted talent. Someone like Austin Aries, Homicide, I bet Larry Sweeney gets in posthumously, Paul London probably deserves it for his early work.  But like any HOF, they can run into the issue of inducting too many minor indy guys or some big names whose greatest success came after ROH,  For example, I'd induct Jimmy Jacobs before Tyler Black (Seth Rollins).  Yeah, Rollins did briefly hold the title in ROH, but he was never really a top guy or all that important to the company long-term.

Who at WWE is worthy of the ROH Hall of Fame? Nigel McGuinness definitely. Seth Rollins is a tier below that, and Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn and Cesaro are probably lower again. And they might let Nigel do it, seeing as he's only a C-show announcer these days.

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Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: There are actually quite a few guys they can go through before even getting to current WWE contracted talent. Someone like Austin Aries, Homicide, I bet Larry Sweeney gets in posthumously, Paul London probably deserves it for his early work.  But like any HOF, they can run into the issue of inducting too many minor indy guys or some big names whose greatest success came after ROH,  For example, I'd induct Jimmy Jacobs before Tyler Black (Seth Rollins).  Yeah, Rollins did briefly hold the title in ROH, but he was never really a top guy or all that important to the company long-term.

Who at WWE is worthy of the ROH Hall of Fame? Nigel McGuinness definitely. Seth Rollins is a tier below that, and Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn and Cesaro are probably lower again. And they might let Nigel do it, seeing as he's only a C-show announcer these days.

Nigel definitely, and I'd say Owens and Zayn together as a tag team are a lock too. 

Cesaro by himself no, but Cesaro and Hero as a team deserve it. 

A.J. Styles of course.  He meant more to TNA than to ROH, but he was a big part of ROH too in the early years.

Roderick Strong also should be in, but not right away.  He had tremendous longevity and success there, even if he was never a main eventer.  He will be free be the time they want to induct him. 

I'd have to look through the whole WWE roster to see if anyone else comes to mind.  At one point not long ago, damn near everyone in WWE came through ROH, but that seems like a lifetime ago.

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Carey Silkin appeared on camera on Impact tonight confronting the ROH invasion faction and telling them this is what ROH stands for. The funny thing is he almost never cut a promo in all the years of ROH and is now doing it in Impact.

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I can understand why they would want to cut back on the number of titles in ROH. Six is a ridiculous number of championships to have for for the size of their roster the past few years. Cut in half and keep the World HVWT, Tag Team and Pure belts.  There are not enough quality females workers out their to justify a women's division. Look at how shallow the talent pool is in WWE, AEW, NWA, and Impact.
Keep the Pure Championship. It was the one saving grace that ROH had during the pandemic. It gave the company something unique. Go ahead and unify it with he TV title where you have a TV time limit put under Pure rules.
I am over factions littering the wrestling landscape so I won't miss a six man title. The only one that was ever booked right was the World Class version when the Von Erich's and Freebirds fought over it.

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ROH Predictably announced that the Briscoes are the first inductees into the HOF. At least 4 others will be announced in the coming weeks.

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Ring of Honor is proud to welcome Bryan Danielson, the embodiment of fighting spirit and technical wrestling excellence, into the inaugural class of the ROH Hall of Fame.

“The American Dragon” played a major role in establishing ROH as the Best Wrestling on the Planet, beginning with his performance in the main event on ROH’s debut show, The Era of Honor Begins, in 2002.

Whenever “The Final Countdown” blared throughout the building as Danielson made his entrance to the ring, fans knew they were about to witness a true master of his craft at work.

A superior technician, striker and submission specialist, Danielson cemented his status as the best wrestler in the sport when he won the ROH World Title in 2005. His 462-day reign as ROH World Champion is the third-longest, and he made a record 38 successful title defenses.

Danielson made history in 2006 when he defeated arch rival and ROH Pure Champion Nigel McGuinness in Liverpool, England to merge the titles. He also won the inaugural Survival of the Fittest in 2004 and main-evented ROH’s first pay-per-view in 2007.

Danielson had many impressive victories in ROH, but one of his most memorable performances came in defeat. Just over four minutes into his match against then-ROH World Champion Takeshi Morishima in 2007, Danielson suffered a detached retina as a result of the Japanese powerhouse’s clubbing blows.

Morishima targeted Danielson’s injured left eye throughout the match, but Danielson showed incredible toughness and heart and came within a fraction of a second of winning before Morishima ultimately prevailed after more than 20 dramatic minutes.

After leaving ROH in 2009, Danielson would gain world-wide fame in WWE, where he main-evented WrestleMania in 2014 before more than 75,000 fans at the Superdome in New Orleans. Danielson is currently one of the top stars in AEW.

Danielson joins the Briscoes in the inaugural ROH Hall of Fame class. More inductees will be announced in the coming weeks.

A career retrospective on Danielson will be featured on this weekend’s episode of Ring of Honor Wrestling television, and a YouTube special on Danielson drops Monday, Feb. 14 at 9 a.m. ET on ROH’s YouTube channel.

A special Hall of Fame episode of Ring of Honor Wrestling featuring all of the inductees airs on TV the weekend of March 5.

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Kriss wrote: Ring of Honor is proud to welcome Bryan Danielson, the embodiment of fighting spirit and technical wrestling excellence, into the inaugural class of the ROH Hall of Fame.

“The American Dragon” played a major role in establishing ROH as the Best Wrestling on the Planet, beginning with his performance in the main event on ROH’s debut show, The Era of Honor Begins, in 2002.

Whenever “The Final Countdown” blared throughout the building as Danielson made his entrance to the ring, fans knew they were about to witness a true master of his craft at work.

A superior technician, striker and submission specialist, Danielson cemented his status as the best wrestler in the sport when he won the ROH World Title in 2005. His 462-day reign as ROH World Champion is the third-longest, and he made a record 38 successful title defenses.

Danielson made history in 2006 when he defeated arch rival and ROH Pure Champion Nigel McGuinness in Liverpool, England to merge the titles. He also won the inaugural Survival of the Fittest in 2004 and main-evented ROH’s first pay-per-view in 2007.

Danielson had many impressive victories in ROH, but one of his most memorable performances came in defeat. Just over four minutes into his match against then-ROH World Champion Takeshi Morishima in 2007, Danielson suffered a detached retina as a result of the Japanese powerhouse’s clubbing blows.

Morishima targeted Danielson’s injured left eye throughout the match, but Danielson showed incredible toughness and heart and came within a fraction of a second of winning before Morishima ultimately prevailed after more than 20 dramatic minutes.

After leaving ROH in 2009, Danielson would gain world-wide fame in WWE, where he main-evented WrestleMania in 2014 before more than 75,000 fans at the Superdome in New Orleans. Danielson is currently one of the top stars in AEW.

Danielson joins the Briscoes in the inaugural ROH Hall of Fame class. More inductees will be announced in the coming weeks.

A career retrospective on Danielson will be featured on this weekend’s episode of Ring of Honor Wrestling television, and a YouTube special on Danielson drops Monday, Feb. 14 at 9 a.m. ET on ROH’s YouTube channel.

A special Hall of Fame episode of Ring of Honor Wrestling featuring all of the inductees airs on TV the weekend of March 5.
I would have to imagine that this means a lot to Danielson.  I wonder if they induct Punk too, as he would be thrilled.  He's always said he loved his time there, as has Danielson.

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Carey Silkin was backstage at AEW tonight and CM Punk tweeted a picture of the 2 of them together, noting they had not seen each other in person in 17 years. You have to wonder if that’s a prelude to Punk being announced as an ROH HOFer on Monday.

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Ring of Honor is proud to welcome Samoa Joe, the most dominant ROH World Champion in history, into the inaugural class of the ROH Hall of Fame.

From the first time he stepped into an ROH ring in 2002, Joe proved to be an intimidating force whose hard-hitting offense, intensity and relentlessness made him one of the sport’s most dangerous competitors.

“The Samoan Submission Machine” is arguably the most proficient American pro wrestler in the art of strong style, a form of pro wrestling popularized in Japan that emphasizes strikes and submissions.

In just his10th match in ROH, Joe captured the ROH Title in March 2003. Two months later, Joe officially elevated the championship to world title status when he successfully defended it in London, marking the first time the championship had been defended outside the United States.

Joe went on to hold the ROH World Championship for a record 645 days and make 31 successful title defenses. It’s not only the longest reign in ROH history, but at the time it was the longest world title reign in any U.S.-based pro wrestling company in 15 years.

During Joe’s historic reign, he and CM Punk engaged in an epic trilogy of matches that have become legendary. They wrestled to two 60-minute draws before Joe won their final meeting.

Six months after losing the ROH World Title, Joe won the ROH Pure Championship.

After leaving ROH in 2007, Joe won the TNA World Heavyweight Title by defeating Kurt Angle. Joe returned to ROH in 2015 for a series of matches before he departed for WWE, where he became the first two-time NXT Champion.

Joe joins the Briscoes and Bryan Danielson in the inaugural ROH Hall of Fame class. The final inductee in the 2022 class will be announced next week.

A career retrospective on Samoa Joe will be featured on this weekend’s episode of Ring of Honor Wrestling television, and a YouTube special on Joe drops Monday, Feb. 21 at 9 a.m. ET on ROH’s YouTube channel.

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Ring of Honor is proud to welcome CM Punk, one of the most charismatic and compelling performers in ROH history, into the ROH Hall of Fame.

Punk is the final member of the inaugural class, joining the Briscoes, Bryan Danielson and Samoa Joe.

Punk made his ROH debut in 2002 and experienced a meteoric rise thanks to his in-ring ability, mic skills and brash attitude. He incited fans by proclaiming that his straight edge lifestyle “means I’m better than you.”

Punk had many memorable moments in ROH, including the iconic “Summer of Punk,” which began when he won the ROH World Championship in June 2005 right after accepting a deal with WWE.

Throughout the summer, Punk taunted ROH fans by repeatedly threatening to take the ROH World Title with him to WWE. He lost the title that August.

In 2004, Punk engaged in an epic trilogy of matches with then-ROH World Champion Samoa Joe that have become legendary. They wrestled to two 60-minute draws before Joe prevailed in their final meeting.

Punk also had a heated rivalry with Raven that is regarded as one of the greatest feuds in ROH history. They waged war against each other in unforgettable dog collar and steel cage matches.

In addition to his ROH World Title reign, Punk also won the ROH World Tag Team Championship on two occasions as a member of The Second City Saints.

After leaving ROH, Punk became one of the biggest stars in the industry in WWE. He wrestled in main events against the likes of The Rock and John Cena, and his 434-day reign as WWE Champion is the sixth-longest in company history.

After stepping away from pro wrestling for more than seven years, Punk made his return last year in AEW, where he continues to be one of the promotion’s top stars.

A career retrospective on Punk will be featured on this weekend’s episode of Ring of Honor Wrestling television, and a YouTube special on Punk drops Monday, Feb. 28 at 9 a.m. ET on ROH’s YouTube channel.

A special Hall of Fame episode of Ring of Honor Wrestling featuring all of the inductees airs on TV the weekend of March 5.

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Watching the Sacrifice PPV today and very interesting that although Impact built the entire show around ROH, they never once mentioned AEW. The closest they got was during the ROH Women's title match between Deonna Purrazzo and Chelsea Green when Tom Phillips said something like "Big news for ROH this week so whoever wins this match is going to have a very busy schedule coming up." Very strange considering that Purazzo is an Impact-contracted talent who was already announced to defend the title on the ROH reboot show even before AEW announced the sale.

In other news, Taven and Bennett jobbed to Swann and Mack, and PCO beat Rhino. It appears that the members of Honor No More are all legit under Impact contracts now though, so they will not be returning to ROH.  However Maria has already tweeted at Tony Khan saying if he wants her to continue to help with the ROH Women's division, she can do so.  That's interesting.

Also, Jay White beat the returning Alex Shelley in a match based around how they were members of Search & Destroy together in ROH when White was a young boy on excursion to ROH. Shelley was billed as White's "mentor". That's a fairly obscure ROH faction that Impact made the center of a PPV match.

Notable by his absence was Jonathan Gresham, who had been defending his version of the ROH World title on most Impact shows as of late, but was not booked here.  Instead he is in Germany competing in the 16 Karat tournament.  He and Bandido are scheduled for a title unification match at the ROH reboot show, and Bandido just appeared in MLW this past week.  

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The inaugural ROH Hall of Fame class wouldn’t be complete without the inclusion of Cary Silkin.

The former ROH owner and current ambassador has taken his rightful place in the ROH Hall of Fame as the first winner of the Legacy Award, which honors those who have made a significant contribution to ROH outside the ring.

Silkin was presented the award by ROH commentator Ian Riccaboni as a surprise at the end of the special Hall of Fame episode of Ring of Honor Wrestling that aired over the weekend.

Silkin joins Jay and Mark Briscoe, Bryan Danielson, Samoa Joe, and CM Punk as the first inductees into the ROH Hall of Fame.

To say that Silkin has made a significant contribution to ROH is a massive understatement. Quite simply, there would be no ROH today if not for him.

Silkin, who became a partner in ROH not long after its inception in 2002, bought the company outright in 2004. ROH experienced significant growth under Silkin’s ownership.

After starting out as a DVD-based promotion that held shows primarily in Philadelphia, ROH expanded its reach by holding live events throughout the U.S. as well as the U.K. and Japan.

In addition, the company began producing pay-­per­-view events, entered into the TV realm via HDNet Fights, and innovated the field of iPPV as it pertained to pro wrestling.

Although ROH had a rabid fan base and produced an in-ring product that was unparalleled in the U.S., the company was losing money. Silkin kept ROH alive even though it was a financial drain on him for several years.

Silkin ensured that ROH would continue by selling it to Sinclair Broadcast Group in 2011.

He has remained with the company as an ambassador. Whenever the ROH World Title has changed hands, Silkin has presented the belt to the new champion in the ring.

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Kriss wrote: The inaugural ROH Hall of Fame class wouldn’t be complete without the inclusion of Cary Silkin.

The former ROH owner and current ambassador has taken his rightful place in the ROH Hall of Fame as the first winner of the Legacy Award, which honors those who have made a significant contribution to ROH outside the ring.

Silkin was presented the award by ROH commentator Ian Riccaboni as a surprise at the end of the special Hall of Fame episode of Ring of Honor Wrestling that aired over the weekend.

Silkin joins Jay and Mark Briscoe, Bryan Danielson, Samoa Joe, and CM Punk as the first inductees into the ROH Hall of Fame.

To say that Silkin has made a significant contribution to ROH is a massive understatement. Quite simply, there would be no ROH today if not for him.

Silkin, who became a partner in ROH not long after its inception in 2002, bought the company outright in 2004. ROH experienced significant growth under Silkin’s ownership.

After starting out as a DVD-based promotion that held shows primarily in Philadelphia, ROH expanded its reach by holding live events throughout the U.S. as well as the U.K. and Japan.

In addition, the company began producing pay-­per­-view events, entered into the TV realm via HDNet Fights, and innovated the field of iPPV as it pertained to pro wrestling.

Although ROH had a rabid fan base and produced an in-ring product that was unparalleled in the U.S., the company was losing money. Silkin kept ROH alive even though it was a financial drain on him for several years.

Silkin ensured that ROH would continue by selling it to Sinclair Broadcast Group in 2011.

He has remained with the company as an ambassador. Whenever the ROH World Title has changed hands, Silkin has presented the belt to the new champion in the ring.

I haven't watched any ROH TV since the hiatus.  Is anything worth watching?  Are these just highlight shows and they added something with Silkin at the end?  Have they mentioned AEW buying the company on TV yet?

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Impact announced that ROH Tag champions the Briscoe Bros. will face Impact Tag champions The Good Bros. Wrestlemania weekend, which I think is a legit first-time-ever dream match. Impact and ROH continue to work closely together even after the sale to AEW, and AEW was mentioned by name on the show last night when Alex Shelley referred to Jay White wrestling there too.

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As of now, Tony Khan has not assumed control of any part of ROH and will not until April 1. Some have accused him of hotshotting the announcement prematurely and causing confusion in the transition. Although it seems almost impossible for the deal to fall through, there are many details to be ironed out still.

ROH has told office staff that they are hoping to save as many jobs as possible, but to look for other work as Khan's interest in retaining them seems limited. The two sides will also have a conversation this week on how the back-end of Honor Club works and Khan will need to make a decision on whether to keep that. There are tons of other details to be discussed that have barely been broached yet.

Khan has had zero involvement with anything regarding the re-boot show at Supercard of Honor, which has had all matches announced under Sinclair ownership.  All we know is that Khan seems to want to leave the show status quo, and he will allow Shane Strickland to still compete even though he's since signed an AEW contract. This is does not mean that Strickland will wind up in ROH instead of AEW though, so it could be the first and last appearance in ROH for him and several others until Khan determines a booking direction.  The show will take place the same day Khan assumes control on April 1, so it will be a chaotic day backstage for sure.

There are still zero talents under ROH contract since everyone was released ahead of the hiatus last year.  Everyone who appears at Supercard of Honor will be paid only for the appearance and nothing is promised long-term, including Strickland, who will be paid his previously agreed-upon rate and will not wrestle under his AEW contract.

Internal sources indicate that Khan is still down on the Briscoes for Jay's homophobic tweets of a few years ago, so that could be a big problem for them as far as a future in either AEW or ROH.  Khan had many opportunities to bring them into AEW before he bought ROH, and he declined.  The Briscoes have reason to worry now about their home company no longer being an option either.  After ROH announced the hiatus, they brought in GCW's openly gay star Effy to run a brief "respect" angle with Jay.  The Briscoes wrestled Effy and AJ Gray with Jay and Effy paired almost the entire match.  It was an "only in wrestling" kind of moment where Jay beating the hell out of a gay guy was meant to prove that he WASN'T homophobic.  At the end of the match, they shook hands and hugged.  Jay put over Effy as being a tough son of a bitch and Effy publicly stated that he liked Jay and felt he has grown and just made a mistake.  The booking was clearly intended to put the homophobic tweets behind them and get the Briscoes an AEW (or WWE) deal, but it didn't work.  Khan will now have a chance to get the Tag belts off of them at Supercard of Honor if he wants to.  

Khan will also need to decide on an Undisputed ROH World champion as Jonathan Gresham will face Bandido in a lineal vs. interim tit;e vs. title match due to Bandido not being able to defend the title at Final Battle due to Covid.  ROH certainly seemed likely to go with Gresham, who has defended the title proudly in Impact and elsewhere since ROH went on hiatus, and Bandido is based in Mexico which can make bookings more difficult.  But no one knows what Khan is thinking.  Gresham could still wind up with his wife in Impact, meaning they’d have to have him lose. Bandido has a past with AEW dating to All In, the show that is part of the ROH tape library that Khan just bought but really started AEW.

Then there's the AEW Women's title, currently held by Impact wrestler Deonna Purazzo.  There is no chance to sign her to a deal and AEW and Impact are no longer working closely together, so you'd think Khan would need to get the belt off of her too at Supercard of Honor.

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srossi wrote: As of now, Tony Khan has not assumed control of any part of ROH and will not until April 1. Some have accused him of hotshotting the announcement prematurely and causing confusion in the transition. Although it seems almost impossible for the deal to fall through, there are many details to be ironed out still.

ROH has told office staff that they are hoping to save as many jobs as possible, but to look for other work as Khan's interest in retaining them seems limited. The two sides will also have a conversation this week on how the back-end of Honor Club works and Khan will need to make a decision on whether to keep that. There are tons of other details to be discussed that have barely been broached yet.

Khan has had zero involvement with anything regarding the re-boot show at Supercard of Honor, which has had all matches announced under Sinclair ownership.  All we know is that Khan seems to want to leave the show status quo, and he will allow Shane Strickland to still compete even though he's since signed an AEW contract. This is does not mean that Strickland will wind up in ROH instead of AEW though, so it could be the first and last appearance in ROH for him and several others until Khan determines a booking direction.  The show will take place the same day Khan assumes control on April 1, so it will be a chaotic day backstage for sure.

There are still zero talents under ROH contract since everyone was released ahead of the hiatus last year.  Everyone who appears at Supercard of Honor will be paid only for the appearance and nothing is promised long-term, including Strickland, who will be paid his previously agreed-upon rate and will not wrestle under his AEW contract.

Internal sources indicate that Khan is still down on the Briscoes for Jay's homophobic tweets of a few years ago, so that could be a big problem for them as far as a future in either AEW or ROH.  Khan had many opportunities to bring them into AEW before he bought ROH, and he declined.  The Briscoes have reason to worry now about their home company no longer being an option either.  After ROH announced the hiatus, they brought in GCW's openly gay star Effy to run a brief "respect" angle with Jay.  The Briscoes wrestled Effy and AJ Gray with Jay and Effy paired almost the entire match.  It was an "only in wrestling" kind of moment where Jay beating the hell out of a gay guy was meant to prove that he WASN'T homophobic.  At the end of the match, they shook hands and hugged.  Jay put over Effy as being a tough son of a bitch and Effy publicly stated that he liked Jay and felt he has grown and just made a mistake.  The booking was clearly intended to put the homophobic tweets behind them and get the Briscoes an AEW (or WWE) deal, but it didn't work.  Khan will now have a chance to get the Tag belts off of them at Supercard of Honor if he wants to.  

Khan will also need to decide on an Undisputed ROH World champion as Jonathan Gresham will face Bandido in a lineal vs. interim tit;e vs. title match due to Bandido not being able to defend the title at Final Battle due to Covid.  ROH certainly seemed likely to go with Gresham, who has defended the title proudly in Impact and elsewhere since ROH went on hiatus, and Bandido is based in Mexico which can make bookings more difficult.  But no one knows what Khan is thinking.  Gresham could still wind up with his wife in Impact, meaning they’d have to have him lose. Bandido has a past with AEW dating to All In, the show that is part of the ROH tape library that Khan just bought but really started AEW.

Then there's the AEW Women's title, currently held by Impact wrestler Deonna Purazzo.  There is no chance to sign her to a deal and AEW and Impact are no longer working closely together, so you'd think Khan would need to get the belt off of her too at Supercard of Honor.

The Briscoes were on the Battleground podcast to once again apologize for the homophobic tweet. 

Jay: “I want to say, thank you to the people who really know. We get labeled as homophobes. I put out a stupid tweet nine years ago, the most dumbest, immature, obnoxious shit I’ve ever done. I don’t want anybody, from any walk of life, to feel like they can’t care for the Briscoes because I promise we love everybody. We love everybody and we just want to go out there and be pro wrestlers and give the best match that we can. I said some dumb shit a long time ago, I apologized for it and I’ll apologize for it again. It was stupid.”

Mark also jumped in: “We thought we were taking a stand for the Lord. We were immature then and now realize the Lord has love for everybody. Everyone is welcome in the Kingdom of God.”

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There was a story that someone at Warner nixed the Briscoes appearing on AEW TV because of all this.

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I had to look up the original comment because it's been so long, but it's actually one of the worse ones as far as Cancel Culture goes. Delaware had just passed a same sex marriage bill and Jay sarcastically tweeted "Congratulations" but said if anyone tries to teach his kids that's OK he would shoot them. So yeah, it's not like he used the wrong pronoun, it was not a good look.

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Tony Khan tweeted today that the Briscoes will face FTR at Supercard of Honor.

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Jay Lethal vs. Lee Moriarty has been added to Supercard of Honor, obviously both on loan from AEW.

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Why is everyone fucking crazy these days? I always liked Gabe Sapolsky, but this message...Jesus Christ.

"Since I see classic Ring Of Honor is getting more attention I want to take a moment and apologize for my “in character” commentary. I’ll start by saying I fired myself from commentary as soon as we found a suitable replacement.

It was another era back then. It might be hard to believe but it was hard to find decent commentators who would work the hours we did. We used to do commentary on 2 shows staying up all night on a weeknight in Tampa, FL. Budget was also a concern & I wanted to save Cary $

At the time, ROH was just a growing indie. It’s not like people were clamoring to stay up till 5am to do voiceovers in a living room in Tampa. We went through various commentators and eventually I didn’t cost any extra money as I was there anyway to edit/produce.

I also knew the storylines, directions & characters. Thankfully, we eventually found Lenny Leonard, who lived in the area, and Dave Prazak. We booked Prazak in FIP and combined the expenses to fly him in. They were a great team & still are. They gave us stability.

My commentary skills ranged from bad to embarrassing to deplorable. There were times I tried to do a Howard Stern influenced character (big in the early 2000s) & had an ECW influence. I apologize for anyone having to hear it now.

As you can see from years of EVOLVE, my values and standards changed to being much more family friendly without trying to be “edgy” in a 90s style.

Can someone please ask Tony Khan to see if he can edit out my commentary or at least the worst parts of it. I’m not sure if that’s possible. Maybe he has the original master tapes. I don’t know. I hope my commentary doesn’t ruin people’s enjoyment of classic ROH. Thank you

For the record, I don’t know Tony Khan and have never talked to him. However, I know a lot of people who do know him so feel free to pass on the message :)"

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srossi wrote: Why is everyone fucking crazy these days? I always liked Gabe Sapolsky, but this message...Jesus Christ.

"Since I see classic Ring Of Honor is getting more attention I want to take a moment and apologize for my “in character” commentary. I’ll start by saying I fired myself from commentary as soon as we found a suitable replacement.

It was another era back then. It might be hard to believe but it was hard to find decent commentators who would work the hours we did. We used to do commentary on 2 shows staying up all night on a weeknight in Tampa, FL. Budget was also a concern & I wanted to save Cary $

At the time, ROH was just a growing indie. It’s not like people were clamoring to stay up till 5am to do voiceovers in a living room in Tampa. We went through various commentators and eventually I didn’t cost any extra money as I was there anyway to edit/produce.

I also knew the storylines, directions & characters. Thankfully, we eventually found Lenny Leonard, who lived in the area, and Dave Prazak. We booked Prazak in FIP and combined the expenses to fly him in. They were a great team & still are. They gave us stability.

My commentary skills ranged from bad to embarrassing to deplorable. There were times I tried to do a Howard Stern influenced character (big in the early 2000s) & had an ECW influence. I apologize for anyone having to hear it now.

As you can see from years of EVOLVE, my values and standards changed to being much more family friendly without trying to be “edgy” in a 90s style.

Can someone please ask Tony Khan to see if he can edit out my commentary or at least the worst parts of it. I’m not sure if that’s possible. Maybe he has the original master tapes. I don’t know. I hope my commentary doesn’t ruin people’s enjoyment of classic ROH. Thank you

For the record, I don’t know Tony Khan and have never talked to him. However, I know a lot of people who do know him so feel free to pass on the message :)"
He's incredibly smart by getting in front of this because he's worried that with AEW taking over it will increase the exposure to the product.  So by getting in front of it, people can't take a giant shit on him and try to cancel him.  Yes he's being a giant puss for doing this but that's kinda the idea these days, you can't own any of your negative statements because people on social media don't care, they just want to hurt others and take the focus off of themselves.

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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: Why is everyone fucking crazy these days? I always liked Gabe Sapolsky, but this message...Jesus Christ.

"Since I see classic Ring Of Honor is getting more attention I want to take a moment and apologize for my “in character” commentary. I’ll start by saying I fired myself from commentary as soon as we found a suitable replacement.

It was another era back then. It might be hard to believe but it was hard to find decent commentators who would work the hours we did. We used to do commentary on 2 shows staying up all night on a weeknight in Tampa, FL. Budget was also a concern & I wanted to save Cary $

At the time, ROH was just a growing indie. It’s not like people were clamoring to stay up till 5am to do voiceovers in a living room in Tampa. We went through various commentators and eventually I didn’t cost any extra money as I was there anyway to edit/produce.

I also knew the storylines, directions & characters. Thankfully, we eventually found Lenny Leonard, who lived in the area, and Dave Prazak. We booked Prazak in FIP and combined the expenses to fly him in. They were a great team & still are. They gave us stability.

My commentary skills ranged from bad to embarrassing to deplorable. There were times I tried to do a Howard Stern influenced character (big in the early 2000s) & had an ECW influence. I apologize for anyone having to hear it now.

As you can see from years of EVOLVE, my values and standards changed to being much more family friendly without trying to be “edgy” in a 90s style.

Can someone please ask Tony Khan to see if he can edit out my commentary or at least the worst parts of it. I’m not sure if that’s possible. Maybe he has the original master tapes. I don’t know. I hope my commentary doesn’t ruin people’s enjoyment of classic ROH. Thank you

For the record, I don’t know Tony Khan and have never talked to him. However, I know a lot of people who do know him so feel free to pass on the message :)"
He's incredibly smart by getting in front of this because he's worried that with AEW taking over it will increase the exposure to the product.  So by getting in front of it, people can't take a giant shit on him and try to cancel him.  Yes he's being a giant puss for doing this but that's kinda the idea these days, you can't own any of your negative statements because people on social media don't care, they just want to hurt others and take the focus off of themselves.

He's actually highlighting a situation that is unlikely to really come to light, and the statement is so awkward it's hard to tell if he's worried about specific comments he made or if it's just his bad commentary he's concerned about.  But you can bet for sure people will try to dig up something on him now by combing through those old tapes.  I don't even remember him doing a "Howard Stern" character, and I watched all those shows.  But find a way to go through proper channels instead of dumping that out there online, and don't expect Tony Khan to do an expensive editing job on a tape library not even in his physical possession yet.

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I bet the very first match of the first ROH show never sees the light of day. The Christopher Street Connection gimmick wasn't great even at the time, but you'd never get away with it today. And the gimmick was also awful, so it's definitely a hill to die on in preserving ROH history. Then again it could fly completely under the radar like lots of attitude era stuff does. Eventually stuff like "Sweet Jesus she's got a penis" will offend someone and be deleted as an example.

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A match for the interim womens title between Willow Nightingale and Mercedes Martinez has been added to Supercard of Honor. I'd fully expect Martinez to win that then turn up later in the evening to answer the Perruzzo challenge and win the ROH Women's Title.

There is so much wrestling going on this weekend. Without even watching any of the WWE stuff, there's more that I want to watch than I have time for. Almost every show has a good line-up. Some guys are going to have 4 star matches that hardly anyone sees and no one remembers because it will get lost in amongst Al the high profile stuff.

I'm gonna try and watch Supercard of Honor, Rampage, Impact Multiverse show and the HOF. After that, I'll likely watch Mania on FF and maybe some of the NXT show. But there's some good stuff billed on the GCW shows as well as matches here and there on other shows that I would watch any other week.

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Kriss wrote: A match for the interim womens title between Willow Nightingale and Mercedes Martinez has been added to Supercard of Honor. I'd fully expect Martinez to win that then turn up later in the evening to answer the Perruzzo challenge and win the ROH Women's Title.

There is so much wrestling going on this weekend. Without even watching any of the WWE stuff, there's more that I want to watch than I have time for. Almost every show has a good line-up. Some guys are going to have 4 star matches that hardly anyone sees and no one remembers because it will get lost in amongst Al the high profile stuff.

I'm gonna try and watch Supercard of Honor, Rampage, Impact Multiverse show and the HOF. After that, I'll likely watch Mania on FF and maybe some of the NXT show. But there's some good stuff billed on the GCW shows as well as matches here and there on other shows that I would watch any other week.

Why do they need an interim champion when Purrazzo is the champion?

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srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: A match for the interim womens title between Willow Nightingale and Mercedes Martinez has been added to Supercard of Honor. I'd fully expect Martinez to win that then turn up later in the evening to answer the Perruzzo challenge and win the ROH Women's Title.

There is so much wrestling going on this weekend. Without even watching any of the WWE stuff, there's more that I want to watch than I have time for. Almost every show has a good line-up. Some guys are going to have 4 star matches that hardly anyone sees and no one remembers because it will get lost in amongst Al the high profile stuff.

I'm gonna try and watch Supercard of Honor, Rampage, Impact Multiverse show and the HOF. After that, I'll likely watch Mania on FF and maybe some of the NXT show. But there's some good stuff billed on the GCW shows as well as matches here and there on other shows that I would watch any other week.

Why do they need an interim champion when Purrazzo is the champion?

She booked at the  Impact Multiverse show wont be on the ROH show

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bpickering wrote: srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: A match for the interim womens title between Willow Nightingale and Mercedes Martinez has been added to Supercard of Honor. I'd fully expect Martinez to win that then turn up later in the evening to answer the Perruzzo challenge and win the ROH Women's Title.

There is so much wrestling going on this weekend. Without even watching any of the WWE stuff, there's more that I want to watch than I have time for. Almost every show has a good line-up. Some guys are going to have 4 star matches that hardly anyone sees and no one remembers because it will get lost in amongst Al the high profile stuff.

I'm gonna try and watch Supercard of Honor, Rampage, Impact Multiverse show and the HOF. After that, I'll likely watch Mania on FF and maybe some of the NXT show. But there's some good stuff billed on the GCW shows as well as matches here and there on other shows that I would watch any other week.

Why do they need an interim champion when Purrazzo is the champion?

She booked at the  Impact Multiverse show wont be on the ROH show

I didn’t realize it was at the same time. I’d be pissed if I was ROH that the company gave her the belt during hiatus and announced that she’d be defending it and now she’s double-booked. I know there are a lot of extenuating circumstances here, but this show was always scheduled even before AEW bought it. 

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srossi wrote: bpickering wrote: srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: A match for the interim womens title between Willow Nightingale and Mercedes Martinez has been added to Supercard of Honor. I'd fully expect Martinez to win that then turn up later in the evening to answer the Perruzzo challenge and win the ROH Women's Title.

There is so much wrestling going on this weekend. Without even watching any of the WWE stuff, there's more that I want to watch than I have time for. Almost every show has a good line-up. Some guys are going to have 4 star matches that hardly anyone sees and no one remembers because it will get lost in amongst Al the high profile stuff.

I'm gonna try and watch Supercard of Honor, Rampage, Impact Multiverse show and the HOF. After that, I'll likely watch Mania on FF and maybe some of the NXT show. But there's some good stuff billed on the GCW shows as well as matches here and there on other shows that I would watch any other week.

Why do they need an interim champion when Purrazzo is the champion?

She booked at the  Impact Multiverse show wont be on the ROH show

I didn’t realize it was at the same time. I’d be pissed if I was ROH that the company gave her the belt during hiatus and announced that she’d be defending it and now she’s double-booked. I know there are a lot of extenuating circumstances here, but this show was always scheduled even before AEW bought it. 

The Impact show starts two hours after the ROH show, so the Briscoes will be able to wrestle on both shows. Purrazzo could have wrestled on both shows, but given her "champ champ" open challenge gimmick right now, this makes more sense in the story. As I said, I fully expect Martinez to win the title on the Impact show. I don't really know what the recovery rate is for a wrestler, but it's gonna be tough for the Briscoes to wrestle FTR then the Good Brothers a couple of hours later.

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Ian Riccaboni and Caprice Coleman will be the announcing team for this Friday's ROH Supercard of Honor PPV in Dallas, Texas.

fficially announced for the event, which will air on PPV, FITE.TV, PPV.com, and for Honor Club subscribers:

*ROH Champion Jonathan Gresham vs. ROH Champion Bandido to unify the Championship.

*ROH Tag Team Champions The Briscoes vs. FTR for the first time ever.

*Willow Nightingale vs. Mercedes Martinez to crown the Interim ROH Women's Champion.

*Jay Lethal vs. Lee Moriarty with Matt Sydal.

*Shane Strickland vs. Alex Zayne.

*ROH Pure Champion Josh Woods vs. Wheeler Yuta.

*Also appearing are Joe Hendry, Ninja Mack and more.

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Why in the hell would you have Lethal and Yuta lose two days before this card on prime time TV? Yuta especially since he will be in a title match. Not mention Strickland losing last week.

While they are separate promotions , they are owned by the same guy. Khan can't make a habit of doing stupid booking like this much longer. Right now, AEW TV is ROH TV.

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cheapseats wrote: Why in the hell would you have Lethal and Yuta lose two days before this card on prime time TV? Yuta especially since he will be in a title match. Not mention Strickland losing last week.

While they are separate promotions , they are owned by the same guy. Khan can't make a habit of doing stupid booking like this much longer. Right now, AEW TV is ROH TV.

ROH looks like it will be used as a training ground.  The company has barely even been mentioned again on AEW TV.  FTR casually mentioned that they will win the ROH titles this week, but never mentioned the Briscoes, the date, the time, how to watch, anything.  I think Yuta is being booked well as someone who is now in a hot angle and earning respect in losses to top talent, which sets him up for a run with the ROH Pure title, which will be positioned as a very low-level belt.  The Pure title fits in well with the Blackpool Combat Club faction and I expect him to win it.  And Lethal is just an elder statesman, someone who was jobbing left and right in ROH at the end even before going to AEW.  He's done everything in the company and is just there to put people over and give them the rub at this point.  You don't need to build him up for an ROH match anymore. 

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srossi wrote: cheapseats wrote: Why in the hell would you have Lethal and Yuta lose two days before this card on prime time TV? Yuta especially since he will be in a title match. Not mention Strickland losing last week.

While they are separate promotions , they are owned by the same guy. Khan can't make a habit of doing stupid booking like this much longer. Right now, AEW TV is ROH TV.

ROH looks like it will be used as a training ground.  The company has barely even been mentioned again on AEW TV.  FTR casually mentioned that they will win the ROH titles this week, but never mentioned the Briscoes, the date, the time, how to watch, anything.  I think Yuta is being booked well as someone who is now in a hot angle and earning respect in losses to top talent, which sets him up for a run with the ROH Pure title, which will be positioned as a very low-level belt.  The Pure title fits in well with the Blackpool Combat Club faction and I expect him to win it.  And Lethal is just an elder statesman, someone who was jobbing left and right in ROH at the end even before going to AEW.  He's done everything in the company and is just there to put people over and give them the rub at this point.  You don't need to build him up for an ROH match anymore. 
I can buy the logic yet IMO the match with Danielson should have  happened last week. He looks good in a loss and learns a few things to get a really good win last night against a mid carder then challenge for the title on Friday.  Right now, Yuta looks cold going in to his title match.
When was the last time Yuta even won in a singles match on Rampage or Dark?

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While they are separate promotions , they are owned by the same guy. Khan can't make a habit of doing stupid booking like this much longer. Right now, AEW TV is ROH TV.

ROH looks like it will be used as a training ground.  The company has barely even been mentioned again on AEW TV.  FTR casually mentioned that they will win the ROH titles this week, but never mentioned the Briscoes, the date, the time, how to watch, anything.  I think Yuta is being booked well as someone who is now in a hot angle and earning respect in losses to top talent, which sets him up for a run with the ROH Pure title, which will be positioned as a very low-level belt.  The Pure title fits in well with the Blackpool Combat Club faction and I expect him to win it.  And Lethal is just an elder statesman, someone who was jobbing left and right in ROH at the end even before going to AEW.  He's done everything in the company and is just there to put people over and give them the rub at this point.  You don't need to build him up for an ROH match anymore. 
I can buy the logic yet IMO the match with Danielson should have  happened last week. He looks good in a loss and learns a few things to get a really good win last night against a mid carder then challenge for the title on Friday.  Right now, Yuta looks cold going in to his title match.
When was the last time Yuta even won in a singles match on Rampage or Dark?

I mentioned this before that I'm not sure if Yuta has ever won a match on Dynamite or Rampage.  I don't watch Dark so I assume he has wins there.  They're pushing some bland guys pretty cold between him, Garcia, and a few others right now.  But with Yuta, I think they're going to use ROH to elevate him as part of this gimmick in AEW, they're never going to use AEW to promote something in ROH.  That seems obvious after only 1 month of Khan owning the company.  So I'll wait and see how it plays out.  I am expecting him to present the Pure title to Regal, Danielson, and Moxley next week as a sign that he deserves to be included in BCC, and they're probably going to reject him again at least a few more times.

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cheapseats wrote: srossi wrote: cheapseats wrote: Why in the hell would you have Lethal and Yuta lose two days before this card on prime time TV? Yuta especially since he will be in a title match. Not mention Strickland losing last week.

While they are separate promotions , they are owned by the same guy. Khan can't make a habit of doing stupid booking like this much longer. Right now, AEW TV is ROH TV.

ROH looks like it will be used as a training ground.  The company has barely even been mentioned again on AEW TV.  FTR casually mentioned that they will win the ROH titles this week, but never mentioned the Briscoes, the date, the time, how to watch, anything.  I think Yuta is being booked well as someone who is now in a hot angle and earning respect in losses to top talent, which sets him up for a run with the ROH Pure title, which will be positioned as a very low-level belt.  The Pure title fits in well with the Blackpool Combat Club faction and I expect him to win it.  And Lethal is just an elder statesman, someone who was jobbing left and right in ROH at the end even before going to AEW.  He's done everything in the company and is just there to put people over and give them the rub at this point.  You don't need to build him up for an ROH match anymore. 
I can buy the logic yet IMO the match with Danielson should have  happened last week. He looks good in a loss and learns a few things to get a really good win last night against a mid carder then challenge for the title on Friday.  Right now, Yuta looks cold going in to his title match.
When was the last time Yuta even won in a singles match on Rampage or Dark?

The only explicit mention was Ecalibur plugging the PPV on Dark on Tuesday night. The demographic for ROH is pretty much only smart fans looking for good in-ring work. Having someone that everyone knows is a good wrestler lose on AEW TV makes no difference to anything on an ROH show.

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Tully Blanchard has apparently been shifted to ROH as he is supposed to debut a new client at Supercard of Honor.

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No Shock FTR wins the Tag titles against Briscoes

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#SuoercardOfHonor trending #1 over #Smackdown tonight, which is not being lost on anyone.

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Wheeler Yuta wins the Pure title and Tony Khan immediately announced he is All Elite. Apparently he wasn’t signed before.

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Supercard of Honor was an excellent show top to bottom, and the tag title match was a must-see. Definitely worth the wait since it was first teased.

I'm pretty sure that William Regal was announced to be on commentary for the Wheeler Yuta match, so I wonder what happened there.

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Kriss wrote: A match for the interim womens title between Willow Nightingale and Mercedes Martinez has been added to Supercard of Honor. I'd fully expect Martinez to win that then turn up later in the evening to answer the Perruzzo challenge and win the ROH Women's Title.
They did talk about Martinez winning the interim title earlier in the night, but Perrazzo's challenger was Fabi Apache for the AAA title, then Taya Valkyrie came out and challenged Perrazzo to a match at Rebellion for the AAA title.

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The Briscoes vs The Good Brothers was the main event of the Impact show, I guess to give the Briscoes maximum time to recover. It was mentioned on commentary that FTR had beaten them earlier in the evening for the ROH title. This match was much shorter and lower in quality. They ended the match by having Jay White and Chris Bey interfere to allow the Good Brothers to win. Looks like the Briscoes are heading to Impact.

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Tony Khan said SoH sold 200 tickets before he bought the company and 2,000 right after he announced FTR vs. the Briscoes. I just started the show but when they were running down the card, that match was the only one to get a huge reaction from the crowd just at the mention of it.

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Gabe Sapolsky has posted an internal note of do’s and font’s to talent before the first ROH show. 

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Deonna Purazzo wound up being challenged for the AAA title by Faby Apache at Impact's Multiverse show. She did cut a promo expressing bitterness at ROH crowning an interim champion earlier in the night, calling Mercedes Martinez a paper champion and challnging her, but then she was interrupted by the returning Taya Valkyrie, who told her not to worry about ROH because she's coming for her AAA title.  I assume Impact and ROH will arrange a quick unification to get both belts on Martinez and then Purazzo will focus on the AAA belt.  Ironically, the AAA Tag titles are now held by FTR, who just won the ROH titles too.



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