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 Posted: Wed Mar 2nd, 2022 12:31 am
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Maverick in Top Gun. Why did anyone like this guy? Why are we supposed to like him? He is arrogant, only thinks about himself, endangers other people but they portray Val Kilmer's character and the other guys as the problem when they are just responding to his A hole personality. Unlikable lead character.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 2nd, 2022 02:56 pm
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It’s not so much a repeated viewing thing but Walter White became a complete and total asshole.



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gwlee7 wrote: It’s not so much a repeated viewing thing but Walter White became a complete and total asshole.
That was the point of the show though. His degeneration was as real and subtle as any I’ve ever seen on TV. His rationalizations for his actions start out not that bad and make you feel for him, and then every episode he just goes down the rabbit hole ever so slightly more until he’s a complete monster. It’s just a brilliantly written show. 



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 Posted: Thu Mar 3rd, 2022 01:24 am
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srossi wrote: gwlee7 wrote: It’s not so much a repeated viewing thing but Walter White became a complete and total asshole.
That was the point of the show though. His degeneration was as real and subtle as any I’ve ever seen on TV. His rationalizations for his actions start out not that bad and make you feel for him, and then every episode he just goes down the rabbit hole ever so slightly more until he’s a complete monster. It’s just a brilliantly written show. 

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Would Vic Mackey from "The Shield" qualify? Over the last season, I think they subtly turned Vic heel while turning Shane face.

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Big Garea Fan wrote: Would Vic Mackey from "The Shield" qualify? Over the last season, I think they subtly turned Vic heel while turning Shane face.

How was he not always a heel?  He murdered his partner in the first scene of the first episode. 



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 Posted: Thu Mar 3rd, 2022 02:45 pm
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srossi wrote: Big Garea Fan wrote: Would Vic Mackey from "The Shield" qualify? Over the last season, I think they subtly turned Vic heel while turning Shane face.

How was he not always a heel?  He murdered his partner in the first scene of the first episode. 
True, but I was still rooting for him. He was a dirty cop but he was effective at keeping the "average Joe" safe while getting the criminals to kill each other off. I sort of considered him to be a "Stone Cold Steve Austin-type" who was against the establishment (police administrators), made communities safer, and had the respect of his co-workers.    


At the end, it seemed that his focus shifted to self-preservation instead of fighting crime.

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The Office (US version) was recently added to Netflix here, and we've been been rewatching it. Jim is asshole. Didn't remember it that way.



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Kriss wrote: The Office (US version) was recently added to Netflix here, and we've been been rewatching it. Jim is asshole. Didn't remember it that way.Same here very time I re-watched The Office Jim seems like a bigger and bigger asshole. 

I also used to can't stand Andy, but the more I watch I like his character more and more for whatever reason I don't exactly know, maybe he's the one character that most office workers can identify with.

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The Ultimate Sin wrote: The Nerds on Revenge of the Nerds. Originally, we were rooting for the underdogs, but they were rapists, pedos, & peeping toms.
It's true. A bunch of perv's but they were cheered on. Bender in The Breakfast Club was thought of as cool back then. People love the fist in the air at the end  but you watch it now and he's a giant scumbag. And he gets the girl at the end. Lol

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Rodney Dangerfield's character in "Caddyshack" comes off like a complete jackass. Sure, he's there to rattle the cage of rich snobs, and that's fine. Yet it's supposed to be "funny" that he crashes into people's boats. What a dick.

In the original "Predator" I thought that Mac (Bill Duke) was an incompetent imbecile. Then I realized that he's distraught over losing his longtime comrade, Blaine (Jesse Ventura). The scene where he says: "he was...my friend, sir" then started to get me teary-eyed.

I also thought that Mac's chanting of "gonna' have me some fun" was insane babbling. Then I realized it was a callback to Little Richard's "Long Tall Sally", which the crew was blasting in their helicopters, earlier.



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I loved the 1989 "Batman" when it came out... then watched it, circa 1995, and was amazed that Batman kills more people than the Joker. Batman, who had a longstanding "code against killing" barrels into a factory, machine guns blazing on the Batmobile, and proceeds to bomb it.



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Ross Geller on Friends.

Starts out as a lovable loser. Wife goes lesbian. Can't get Rachel to notice him. Underdog type shit.

Then as the years go on, he fucks up every relationship he's in, his mannerisms weirder and weirder, he has an unhealthy relationship with his sister, and you uncover how unlikeable he is, and if it wasn't for the other 5 Friends, he'd have no Friends.

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One of my favorite shows growing up was Northern Exposure and recently I dug it up and started watching it again. One of my early crushes as a teenager was Janine Turner, but now re-watching the show her character Maggie's insecure feminism is now a turn-off. Still like the show, though.

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Another show new to Netflix that we've been watching is Seinfeld. In it's day I hought it was the greatest thing ever. Over the years I've now seen Curb and Jerry Seinfeld's solo stuff. Larry David had all the talent and Seinfeld is a hack. None of Seinfeld's solo stuff is funny, and every time I watch Seinfeld I keep thinking that it would be better if Larry and not Jerry was in the show.



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