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WowBB Forums > Sports And Wrestling > General Discussion > Has Your Opinion Of Donald Trump Changed In The Past Year? |
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beejmi THE BIG KAHUNA 
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That’s the question. |
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Papa Voo
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Nope. Still a grifter. Trump is probably not the criminal element like they try to paint him, but he sure in the hell isn’t the American Savior like some believe. |
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KGB
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I wouldn't say my opinion of him changed, but I've certainly become ever more comfortable with the idea that his time has come and gone. His successes as President were modest from a policy perspective, mostly in the area of energy independence. He was also very successful in moving the discussion of certain topics out of the shadows -- somewhat. Immigration is of course the biggest one. Another, although he never talked about it in such terms, is the decimation of large swaths of this country by ripping the industrial base out of it. It would have been better if he'd asked us to discuss whether a life of purpose and labor is more important than one of cheap consumer goods. But at least, for all his NYC glitz, one got the sense that he shared an actual affinity for the people in flyover country, in stark contrast to nearly every other Washington pol. But he was never going to be much more than a wrecker, and even there he seemed just a bit too reluctant to lose the good graces of the other Cloud People. Some of that was surely a result of Ivana and her (((husband))) having his ear. So I think my opinion of his Presidential performance hasn't changed much in the past year. I'm dead set against him running again in 2024, although I think if he meets with any resistance in the primary season, he'll fold his tent. The only thing that's really turned me off in the last year is his insistence that the vaccines are something to brag about. He's really not reading the room well on that score. |
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Spatulapup
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This is my dream thread. Where do I begin? Thank You Beej.  |
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srossi HALL OF FAMER
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Why would it have changed? My opinion of Bush still hasn’t changed even though liberals love him now. Just because the next incompetent comes along doesn’t make the last clown any better. Trump was more exhausting than anything else. That’s what I don’t miss most. Waking up in the morning and having the tweet or quote of the day to hear about ad nauseum, which didn’t affect policy in the least, until the next day when it would be something totally different but equally absurd. The media of course loved that shit, but so did Trump. They were equally complicit in the fatigue. His followers loved it and his detractors loved to hate it. Spatulapup is proof of that. It was a crappy sitcom to them. I wasn’t amused in the least. Unless Biden falls asleep or forgets where he is, you rarely hear about him directly. And I’m fine with that. |
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khawk HALL OF FAMER 
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Exhausting is the right word. |
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khawk HALL OF FAMER
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Spatulapup wrote: This is my dream thread. Where do I begin? Thank You Beej.So your opinion of him changed? That would mean you liked him at first. I never would have guessed that. |
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indikator
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I think the only people who changed their opinion were people directly involved in the Capitol Riots. Maybe some of their relatives as well, but certainly not all. |
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Jim_Irish
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I haven't changed my opinion of him at all in the past year. |
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srossi HALL OF FAMER
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indikator wrote: I think the only people who changed their opinion were people directly involved in the Capitol Riots. Maybe some of their relatives as well, but certainly not all. Recent polls amongst Republicans show his numbers plummeting in almost every category. He's rapidly losing women, the college-educated, the uneducated, the poor, evangelicals. The shine seems to have come off the turd. The Trump 2024 flags almost seem to be more trollish and anti-Biden than pro-Trump at this point, and it doesn't seem like he has a serious chance if he runs again. In fact, when I was driving around Florida a couple of weeks ago, I saw almost exclusively "Let's Go Brandon" stuff and almost no Trump stuff. You can say that's pro-Trump, but it's really just trying to be the cool kid trolling Biden. People are getting over it and looking for the next guy. |
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KGB
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srossi wrote: indikator wrote:I think the only people who changed their opinion were people directly involved in the Capitol Riots. Maybe some of their relatives as well, but certainly not all. I should have mentioned this too. His seeming unwillingness to go to bat for the political prisoners being held in the aftermath of 1/6 is not helping him with many former supporters. |
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Papa Voo
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I agree somewhat with KGB and srossi. Trump has lost his focus. For a guy that got to become President using his family and other marketing experts to create a brand and messaging, he sure is not following that success for another possible run. I think like anything else his message got old and stale. I would expect them to come up with a new marketing strategy if he is going to run, again. |
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Principal_Raditch
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His obese ass will probably be dead by 2024 anyways. |
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sportatorium roach
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I used to get a kick out of Trump, between WrestleMania 4 and all those commercials he did in the '90s. I didn't vote for him in 2016, but was hopeful he'd be surprisingly boring. But as others mentioned, he was totally exhausting. I don't see evidence that he has finally matured at the age of 75, so I still have a negative view and hope he stays out of 2024. |
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srossi HALL OF FAMER
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sportatorium roach wrote: I used to get a kick out of Trump, between WrestleMania 4 and all those commercials he did in the '90s. I didn't vote for him in 2016, but was hopeful he'd be surprisingly boring. But as others mentioned, he was totally exhausting. I don't see evidence that he has finally matured at the age of 75, so I still have a negative view and hope he stays out of 2024. I think the Trump from the '80s or early '90s would've made a decent president. I'm not sure what happened to him, if it's the dementia setting in or he just got his ass kissed so much over the years and bought into it and completely forgot how to act and think like a human being, but Trump now is insufferable. People forget that even though he always had an arrogant, flamboyant side to him, he was often a low-key, thoughtful speaker a few decades ago. |
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beejmi THE BIG KAHUNA
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I was so-so with him as President but how the country under Biden's lead came unraveled (quickly) with absolutely nothing going in favor of the working guy, I appreciate Trump a bit more, mostly because nothing going well under Biden. Biden continually still compares himself to 'the prior administration' which in my eyes was a 'C' and not a yardstick by which he should be measuring himself. Biden flatout still obsessed with Trump. |
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WongLee HALL OF FAMER 
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Ever so slightly for the better. He did a good thing by signing the First Step Act for criminal justice reform. It helped with cutting back on some harsh sentencing guidelines and trying to put prisoners in programs which would cut recidivism. He also truly did drain the swamp when it came to the Department of Veteran Affairs which really helped with vets getting much better health care than they did in the past. Other than those two things he's still a grifter. |
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beejmi THE BIG KAHUNA
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Agreeing with the 'he lost focus' commentary. When he was running for office you knew where he was, immigration, build the wall. attack the bad trade agreements we had, etc His final year in office. No plan. Particularly as it pertained to COVID. Thats why he lost the elction. |
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Papa Voo
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WongLee wrote: Ever so slightly for the better. He did a good thing by signing the First Step Act for criminal justice reform. It helped with cutting back on some harsh sentencing guidelines and trying to put prisoners in programs which would cut recidivism. Although Trump takes credit for it, the huge upgrade with the VA Choice Act was actually passed by Obama. And I am anything, but an Obama fan. Last edited on Fri Mar 11th, 2022 09:38 am by Papa Voo |
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srossi HALL OF FAMER
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Papa Voo wrote: WongLee wrote:Ever so slightly for the better. He did a good thing by signing the First Step Act for criminal justice reform. It helped with cutting back on some harsh sentencing guidelines and trying to put prisoners in programs which would cut recidivism. The only thing he really deserves credit for is finally ending the war in Afghanistan, which still took him 4 years longer to end than promised, and he was fortunate enough to be out of office when the pull-out finally occurred so that Biden could deal with the inevitable shit-show of actually leaving. But after pussying out many times, he did eventually say we're really leaving this time, and thank God Biden stuck to it. There was no brilliant "deal" or "negotiation" or whatever his supporters give him credit for, it was going to be a disaster when we left no matter what, and it was, but we needed to leave. |
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gwlee7 HALL OF FAMER 
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Nah, he’s still a fucktard. |
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Spatulapup
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Former President Donald Trump called on his supporters to "lay down their lives" to fight against critical race theory (CRT) during his rally in Florence, South Carolina, on Saturday night. The former president rallied his base by criticizing Republican lawmakers who have opposed him, and doubled down on his hardline conservative positions including CRT, which is the study of institutional racism in the legal system. The subject has emerged as a hot button issue for conservatives who argue it is divisive and shouldn't be taught in schools. Others, however, say the concept is only taught in higher education. During the rally, Trump invoked CRT as being a "matter of national survival," calling on his supporters to fight to keep it "out of our schools." "We have no choice. The fate of any nation ultimately depends on the willingness of its citizens to lay down and they must do this—lay down their very lives to defend their country," he said. "If we allow the Marxists and commies and socialists to teach our children to hate America, there will be no one left to defend our flag or to protect our great country or its freedom. Last edited on Sun Mar 13th, 2022 05:38 pm by Spatulapup |
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Jim_Irish
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That post has not changed my opinion of you. |
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srossi HALL OF FAMER
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Yet another thread where random idiotic Trump quotes can be pasted by the one person who still cares. We needed another one of these. |
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khawk HALL OF FAMER
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srossi wrote: Yet another thread where random idiotic Trump quotes can be pasted by the one person who still cares. We needed another one of these.Yep. He's helmet-special, this one |
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brodiescomics
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Plagiarism is a sin. |
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Spatulapup
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It's evidence of why opinions should not change on him. |
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srossi HALL OF FAMER
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Spatulapup wrote: It's evidence of why opinions should not change on him. Almost no one's has, not for the better. I'm not sure who you're preaching to. |
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Jim_Irish
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Neither is he. |
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Spatulapup
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Anyone that still supports him. There are people that likely do. |
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Jim_Irish
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There are indeed. Don't know why you would post it when it's not in any way relevant to the actual question at hand. |
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Spatulapup
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It is relevant. |
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Jim_Irish
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The topic is a question. You didn't answer the question. You posted some smiley face remark days ago about how much you'd love this topic and then you did a copy and paste of an article from somewhere. I did lie when I said I didn't know why you'd post something irrelevant. I do know why,because it's what you do most of the time. |
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gwlee7 HALL OF FAMER
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Just to get the thread back on track, I will restate that my opinion of Trump hasn’t changed…. He is a fucktard. |
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Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer 
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Jim_Irish wrote: The topic is a question.👍 |
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Jim_Irish
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gwlee7 wrote: Just to get the thread back on track, I will restate that my opinion of Trump hasn’t changed…. He is a fucktard.X2 |
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srossi HALL OF FAMER
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gwlee7 wrote: Just to get the thread back on track, I will restate that my opinion of Trump hasn’t changed…. He is a fucktard. Spatulupup just got a boner and this has validated his worldview, although almost no one on this board has ever said anything to the contrary. |
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Quattro
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Trump is a fucktard. Biden is a bigger fucktard. Give me Reagan. |
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