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Work out or whatever.  I don't know.  Flair is 73.  I've seen 73 year olds that can't walk so I guess this is impressive.  Flair takes a bodyslam.
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I thought it was cool. Naitch worked within his limitations. Anyway, isn't Lethal also 73 by now?

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Vintage Wrestling wrote: Pathetic. Nobody wants to see this shitHonestly, I don't see any harm in it as long as it only is for fun and exercise.  This should never be on TV.  But let's be honest with each other - the shit Flair is doing with Lethal looks a lot better than anything Dory Funk did in the last ten years, and I believe he's wrestled in "real matches" for All Japan.   I don't think it's pathetic, but I also don't think it should go any further than that.  It worries me that he might be 'training' to wrestle Hogan again.

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I have no doubt in my mind Flair is going to attempt to wrestle again and will probably do something stupid like take a superplex.

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dr_papufnik wrote: I have no doubt in my mind Flair is going to attempt to wrestle again and will probably do something stupid like take a superplex.

Back drop on the floor or bust!

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Flair needs to work on developing his calves

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Meltzer is reporting that Flair indeed is training for one more run. Rumor has it that he wants to start with a 6-man tag which will see him and FTR take on the Rock ‘n’ Roll Express on their retirement tour and a partner. From there he eventually wants a singles match.

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It is official Flair is wrestling one last time

https://starrcast.com/ric-flairs-last-match

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This wont be his last but it might be the first of his tour of last matches.

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I hope it's a build up to a ladder match and flair takes a suplex off the ladder.

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dr_papufnik wrote: I hope it's a build up to a ladder match and flair takes a suplex off the ladder.

Life imitates art... He's going to have a death match with Necro Butcher.

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Chris Cruise, who always struck me as a really weird dude, has begun a campaign to stop Flair’s comeback. He wrote this:

Hey you rubes, I screw around here a lot, but this is serious: Ric Flair should not be allowed to wrestle. Some reports indicate he has been working out with Jay Lethal in preparation to returning to the ring. He can’t be stopped from doing so in states that don’t have athletic commissions and licensing protocols, but insurance companies can step in and refuse to issue a bond to a promotion that books him. And for those states that do have commissions, they should be contacted to demand that they not allow Flair to wrestle. Simply put, Ric Flair returning to the ring is not wise. No how, no way. He’s 73, in poor health, an alcoholic, and has a pacemaker installed.

Today I emailed the following to the Maryland State Athletic Commission, since I live in Maryland, and will contact other commissions as well. I would encourage you to also email the commission (athletic@dllr.state.md.us) and urge its members to deny Flair a license. It won’t take long, and could help keep Flair alive. Here is the email I sent:

To the Commissioners of the Maryland State Athletic Commission:

Recently, published reports indicate the professional wrestler known as Ric Flair, who is 73 and has a pacemaker, is considering returning to the ring. Obviously, that is not wise. It’s almost as if he wants to die in the ring. https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/ric-flair-is-coming-out-of-retirement-plans-to-wrestle-again

I am writing as a citizen of Maryland to express my concern about the prospect of Mr. Fleihr being granted a license to wrestle in this state. I’m sure you understand how disastrous it would be for the Commission if he died in the ring during a performance for which you granted him a license.

I’d like to know what standards the Commission has for granting a license to a professional wrestler. Is a physical examination required? Are athletes over 70 and who have a pacemaker installed allowed to wrestle professionally in Maryland?

I look forward to your reply.

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Reports are saying it will be Flair & FTR vs Rock and Roll Express & Ricky Steamboat

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If flair want to do it I say more power to him. Seems like he having full matches with Lethel in the videos that posted. Taking slams and suplexes.

If the match is a 6 man he wouldn't really have to do much.

Think Flair is the Real Life Randy the Ram from the wrestler Only place is really happy is in the ring. Because his real life sucks. He loves Ric Flair He hates Richard Fliehr

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bpickering wrote: If flair want to do it I say more power to him. Seems like he having full matches with Lethel in the videos that posted. Taking slams and suplexes.

If the match is a 6 man he wouldn't really have to do much.

Think Flair is the Real Life Randy the Ram from the wrestler Only place is really happy is in the ring. Because his real life sucks. He loves Ric Flair He hates Richard Fliehr


I think you absolutely nailed it. He wants to relive the 80s glory days of jet flyin and kiss stealin so badly. 

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cookie32723 wrote: bpickering wrote: If flair want to do it I say more power to him. Seems like he having full matches with Lethel in the videos that posted. Taking slams and suplexes.

If the match is a 6 man he wouldn't really have to do much.

Think Flair is the Real Life Randy the Ram from the wrestler Only place is really happy is in the ring. Because his real life sucks. He loves Ric Flair He hates Richard Fliehr


I think you absolutely nailed it. He wants to relive the 80s glory days of jet flyin and kiss stealin so badly. 

The sad thing is that if he just went a little less hard in his later years, he could easily still be living a scaled back version of that lifestyle today without having to get in the ring. Everyone still wants to party with Ric Flair. His health and financial problems are all his own doing by having no self-control whatsoever post-50. 

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srossi wrote: cookie32723 wrote: bpickering wrote: If flair want to do it I say more power to him. Seems like he having full matches with Lethel in the videos that posted. Taking slams and suplexes.

If the match is a 6 man he wouldn't really have to do much.

Think Flair is the Real Life Randy the Ram from the wrestler Only place is really happy is in the ring. Because his real life sucks. He loves Ric Flair He hates Richard Fliehr


I think you absolutely nailed it. He wants to relive the 80s glory days of jet flyin and kiss stealin so badly. 

The sad thing is that if he just went a little less hard in his later years, he could easily still be living a scaled back version of that lifestyle today without having to get in the ring. Everyone still wants to party with Ric Flair. His health and financial problems are all his own doing by having no self-control whatsoever post-50. 


He really could be living the good life right now, still enjoying the nightlife and his celebrity status is already far larger now than it was in his heyday. Problem is he just doesn’t know how not to go 100mph, hes proven nobody can tell him what to do because he thinks he knows better. After all, he’s Ric Flair dammit!

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Steamboat said he not wrestling Flair.

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Former NWA World Champion Ricky Steamboat announced last night during his HighspotsAuctions.com live, virtual signing that while he had been offered the chance to get back in the ring with Ric Flair as part of Flair's "final match" on 7/31 in Nashville, TN for the Jim Crockett Promotionals revival event in Nashville, TN, he has turned down the opportunity.

Steamboat noted that he was approached and gave it serious thought for about a week, but at the end of the day, at his age, he didn't want to return to the ring and not give fans what they expected out of Ricky Steamboat. He noted that when he returned to the ring to wrestle Chris Jericho, he was younger and had been involved daily with training and coaching WWE talents and got a "You still got it" chant when he performed. He commented, "I don’t want to scar that phrase."

Steamboat and Flair had a legendary feud for the NWA World title in 1989, culminating with Wrestlewar '89 in Nashville, TN. The paid had equally incredible bouts for Jim Crockett Promotions in the 1980s before Steamboat left for the WWF. The two last wrestled in 1994 on a WCW Saturday Night broadcast.

The Flair return bout is expected to be a multi-man tag team bout. Steamboat referred to it last night as a six man tag team match.

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Steamboat gets it.

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Conrad Thompson commented on concerns on Jeff Jarrett’s podcast:

"I'm sad that Jim Crockett Jr. won't be here to see it. But David Crockett and as many of the Crocketts that we can get will be there on hand to celebrate one last run, one last match, not just for the Nature Boy, but for Jim Crockett promotions. We've licensed the music. It's going to look and feel just like it did way back when in the mid '80s.

"The Nature Boy is going to walk that aisle one last time. I know there's been some pushback and people who were all of a sudden are very concerned about Ric Flair's well-being. I wonder if those are the same folks who are clamoring for Undertaker to have one more match, or what they felt about Vince McMahon wrestling at WrestleMania, or Jerry Lawler wrestling every other weekend?" he continued. "It's not uncommon in Tennessee for these Tennessee boys to strut around, and by the way, Tennessee is the birthplace of Ric Flair. How fun is it that it's come full circle with Jim Crockett promotions and him and one more match? Let me just say that I'm smarter than I look. We got some fun ideas for the show and I think some naysayers are going to come around and they're going to like this idea."

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The whole thing makes me nervous but I am interested. I never got to see the Nature Boy wrestle live. This may be my chance.

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Any odds Steamboat denys he's wrestling, shows up for support, or under a mask, or as Santa Claus or whatever and attacks and beats down Flair bloody after the match and does a promo about how he's sick of being Mr Nice Guy, and they set up a 30 minute time limit babyface Flair heel Steamboat match?

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bpickering wrote: Steamboat said he not wrestling Flair.


Who else could it be then? Brutha?

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beejmi wrote: bpickering wrote: Steamboat said he not wrestling Flair.


Who else could it be then? Brutha?


Oh man - I hope not! What was once the "80s wrestling dream match" of Hogan vs Flair has been beaten to death from being done over and over and over...

How did Flair and Steamboat keep all of their matches fresh? After about the third Hogan vs Flair match, I never wanted to see them wrestle each other again.

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Hogan/Flair was played out after the ‘94 series, let alone the later matches (although the ‘96 Clash match where they switched roles was good). Rewatched that one recently. The problem with Hogan doing this match is that the “event” itself is then no longer Flair’s last match, but it becomes Hogan’s last match too, right? In terms of money in that, brother, I’m sure Conrad and Hogan wouldn’t be able to come to an agreement.


Brian Last and Cornette were pissing all over this the other day. Last had a good line at the end of the YT clip I watched about Conrad’s domestic violence arrest.

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The problem with Steamboat vs Flair is that anything they do will get compared to the ‘89 series. Hell, people crapped all over the ‘94 Spring Stampede match and that was 28 years ago.

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Blazer wrote: The problem with Steamboat vs Flair is that anything they do will get compared to the ‘89 series. Hell, people crapped all over the ‘94 Spring Stampede match and that was 28 years ago.
I don't know about that, especially if it's a 6-man tag. You'd have be a bit soft-brained to be disappointed that two senior citizens can't match their performances in their peak from 33 years ago.

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There's only one opponent who could work a match with Flair and make it something that's tolerable to watch:

George South

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Kriss wrote: Blazer wrote: The problem with Steamboat vs Flair is that anything they do will get compared to the ‘89 series. Hell, people crapped all over the ‘94 Spring Stampede match and that was 28 years ago.
I don't know about that, especially if it's a 6-man tag. You'd have be a bit soft-brained to be disappointed that two senior citizens can't match their performances in their peak from 33 years ago.

You'd probably have to be equally soft-brained to want to see it though.

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Kriss wrote: Blazer wrote: The problem with Steamboat vs Flair is that anything they do will get compared to the ‘89 series. Hell, people crapped all over the ‘94 Spring Stampede match and that was 28 years ago.
I don't know about that, especially if it's a 6-man tag. You'd have be a bit soft-brained to be disappointed that two senior citizens can't match their performances in their peak from 33 years ago.

I get what you're saying.  My point is that once all of the talking and promoting is finished and we see these guys in the ring together, it will be natural to instinctively go back in our mind and remember the greatest of the '84, '89, or '94 matches, and then immediately come back to reality and see two guys so far past their prime that it's scary from a health standboint.  I feel like that outweighs the novelty of actually seeing them in the ring together again after 30 years.  I don't expect people to be rating the match based on a star-basis, but I hate to see Flair hobbling around in a t-shirt and Steamboat's hair transplants getting ripped out.  

I'd love to see Steamboat and Flair do a face-to-face Q&A on stage and take questions from the crowd, maybe do a live watch-along of one of their old matches.  I think Conrad has the Horsemen all booked on stage together to do something similar.

You don't see many baseball old timer's games anymore.  They were popular back in the 70s and 80s.  I wonder if the rationale on that is the same.   It was rough seeing favorites out there on the field way past their prime, even if it was just an exhibition.  I don't know. 

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Steamboat already had the perfect comeback. He looked fantastic against Jericho and that 10-man tag from Raw which I think was his last match was an incredible way to go out and both the fans and wrestlers in that match were clearly appreciative to be in there with him. He has nothing left to prove and doesn’t have the thirst for attention that Flair has.

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I guess that one leaves one guy, the Funker himself Terry Funk!

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cookie32723 wrote: I guess that one leaves one guy, the Funker himself Terry Funk!
Sadly I think Funk is in very bad shape these days.

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On his Facebook page which I think is authorized since it has booking contact info on it and it's where the Flair Jay Lethal training stuff was first posted, Flair posted a montage of him taking the top rope slam saying it will "definitely happen" at the match
https://m.facebook.com/27336722640/videos/

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cookie32723 wrote: I guess that one leaves one guy, the Funker himself Terry Funk!

One more job to Hogan 

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dr_papufnik wrote: On his Facebook page which I think is authorized since it has booking contact info on it and it's where the Flair Jay Lethal training stuff was first posted, Flair posted a montage of him taking the top rope slam saying it will "definitely happen" at the match
https://m.facebook.com/27336722640/videos/

So he’s advertising that he’s going to intentionally attempt a move that will be reversed?  Kayfabe!

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srossi wrote: dr_papufnik wrote: On his Facebook page which I think is authorized since it has booking contact info on it and it's where the Flair Jay Lethal training stuff was first posted, Flair posted a montage of him taking the top rope slam saying it will "definitely happen" at the match
https://m.facebook.com/27336722640/videos/

So he’s advertising that he’s going to intentionally attempt a move that will be reversed?  Kayfabe!


He should hit everything in his final match that is usually reversed; Finally set the record straight. 

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Franchise wrote: srossi wrote: dr_papufnik wrote: On his Facebook page which I think is authorized since it has booking contact info on it and it's where the Flair Jay Lethal training stuff was first posted, Flair posted a montage of him taking the top rope slam saying it will "definitely happen" at the match
https://m.facebook.com/27336722640/videos/

So he’s advertising that he’s going to intentionally attempt a move that will be reversed?  Kayfabe!


He should hit everything in his final match that is usually reversed; Finally set the record straight. 

As a babyface Flair used to hit a crossbody or single-arm axe handle off the top rope all the time, although some swear they never saw him succeed up there. It was only in his late WWE years that even as a face he started to get caught all the time up there because he was doing all his “greatest hits” every match. But he used to only get caught as a heel during most of the ‘80s. 

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srossi wrote: Franchise wrote: srossi wrote: dr_papufnik wrote: On his Facebook page which I think is authorized since it has booking contact info on it and it's where the Flair Jay Lethal training stuff was first posted, Flair posted a montage of him taking the top rope slam saying it will "definitely happen" at the match
https://m.facebook.com/27336722640/videos/

So he’s advertising that he’s going to intentionally attempt a move that will be reversed?  Kayfabe!


He should hit everything in his final match that is usually reversed; Finally set the record straight. 

As a babyface Flair used to hit a crossbody or single-arm axe handle off the top rope all the time, although some swear they never saw him succeed up there. It was only in his late WWE years that even as a face he started to get caught all the time up there because he was doing all his “greatest hits” every match. But he used to only get caught as a heel during most of the ‘80s. 


I was playing off Ric Flair saying in his podcasts that he never won and that everything was reversed. 

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srossi wrote: cookie32723 wrote: I guess that one leaves one guy, the Funker himself Terry Funk!
Sadly I think Funk is in very bad shape these days.

Yeah he’s pretty bad off from what I’ve also heard. 

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Yeah...if you want a Funk to wrestle Flair, it's going to be Dory.  He's 81 and would make Flair the young upstart. 

 I keep thinking of entertainers whose last appearances were an ideal way to have them cap off their career.  Flair definitely had his in 2008 with the sendoff right after WM24 with Shawn Michaels.   Don Rickles had a great TV special where many comedians and a full house came out to pay their respects and roasted him too, only to get their comeuppance at the end by a sharp-witted, althoush not able-bodied, Rickles.   

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Tommy Young will be the referee for Flair’s last match, now he just needs an opponent.

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cookie32723 wrote: Tommy Young will be the referee for Flair’s last match, now he just needs an opponent.


Tommy Young should BE the opponent.   If only there was a guarantee we'd never have to see either glory hound again.    Terry Funk coming back just once more to slap the taste out of Tommy's mouth for an encore might get my interest!

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Justin Barrasso of Sports Illustrated is reporting the 7/31 Jim Crockett Promotions-branded event featuring what has been billed as Ric Flair's Final Match is moving to a larger venue.

The PPV, originally slated for the Nashville Fairgrounds, is being moved to the 9,000-seat Nashville Municipal Auditorium.

This would be the same venue that hosted the 1989 NWA Wrestlewar' 89 - Music City Showdown PPV, headlined by the instantly classic Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat match that climaxed their feud for the NWA World Title, which was followed by Terry Funk attacking Flair and piledriving him on a table. The venue has hosted a number of other professional wrestling events including the second WWF In Your House PPV, WCW Starrcade '94, several NWA: TNA PPVs, several Ring of Honor PPVs and a number of AEW, WWF, and WCW TV tapings.

Flair is expected to compete in a tag team bout at the PPV.



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