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The Baltimore Orioles have a ton of players in their history who either performed ok or below average but then they were traded to other teams and their performance excelled.

A prime example is Jake Arrieta. Arrieta was drafted by the Orioles in 2007 and debuted for the team in 2010. In his four seasons with the Orioles, he had a 20-25 record and a 5.46 ERA.

Arietta was traded to the Cubs in 2013. In 2015, Arrieta won the NL Cy Young Award with a 22-6 record and a 1.77 ERA. He backed up his 2015 performance in 2016 by winning 18 games (including a no-hitter) and a 3.10 ERA.

He also performed well for the Cubs in the post-season winning both of his 2016 World Series pitching appearances with a 2.38 ERA.


I can post many more examples throughout Orioles history.

Did your team have any average players who went on to greatness with other teams?

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Big Garea Fan wrote: The Baltimore Orioles have a ton of players in their history who either performed ok or below average but then they were traded to other teams and their performance excelled.

A prime example is Jake Arrieta. Arrieta was drafted by the Orioles in 2007 and debuted for the team in 2010. In his four seasons with the Orioles, he had a 20-25 record and a 5.46 ERA.

Arietta was traded to the Cubs in 2013. In 2015, Arrieta won the NL Cy Young Award with a 22-6 record and a 1.77 ERA. He backed up his 2015 performance in 2016 by winning 18 games (including a no-hitter) and a 3.10 ERA.

He also performed well for the Cubs in the post-season winning both of his 2016 World Series pitching appearances with a 2.38 ERA.


I can post many more examples throughout Orioles history.

Did your team have any average players who went on to greatness with other teams?
The Orioles had the same thing happen with Schilling, but worse because Curt was dominant for much longer than Jake was.
For the Yankees, I still think the two prime examples would be Willie McGee and Fred McGriff.  I'm not mentioning Jay Buhner, because I just don't look at him in the same light.  He's more like Doug Drabek - both were great for short periods of time.  McGee and McGriff were dominant for a decade.  For the Mets, I think you can start and finish with Nolan Ryan. 



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Montreal Expos trade Randy Johnson + 2 other pitchers to Seattle for Mark Langston.  We know the rest.



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Terry Francona was once a Phillies manager. 4 straight years under .500

Followed that with 16 straight .500+ seasons and a World Series championship between Boston and Cleveland

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The Blackhawks trading Phil Esposito to the bruins comes to mind.



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Well... Pittsburgh Pirates, so there are quite a few.

Jason Schmidt came to the Pirates as part of the Denny Neagle trade in 1996. He went 42-45 for them from 1996 to 2001. He gets traded to the Giants in 2001, goes 78-37 for them with 3 All-Star selections and 2 top 5 CYA finishes.

Tyler Glasnow bounced up and down in Pittsburgh's system from 2016-2018, then gets traded to the Rays in the disastrous Chris Archer Trade and becomes a big part of the Rays' pitching staff.



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Not quite the same, but we (Birmingham City) had Michael Carrick on loan circa 1998 and he looked mediocre, yet played for England in the Euros within a decade and won the League five times.

We sold Jude Bellingham a couple of years ago and he's going to be an outright all-time great, but we all knew that anyway and we couldn't afford to keep him.



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Jimmy Smith and Danny Amendola - It was after they achieve their success in Jacksonville and St. Louis/New England that I even realize they were at one point Dallas Cowboys.

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Leafs opted to keep a 43 yr old Jacque Plante and Trade Bernie Parent away to the Flyers.


Jays Trade Jeff Kent to the Mets.

Jays Trade David Wells to the White Sox

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kargol wrote:

We sold Jude Bellingham a couple of years ago and he's going to be an outright all-time great, but we all knew that anyway and we couldn't afford to keep him.
Yeah I think stuff like that happens to a lot of teams now, in many different sports. An Unfortunate reality of the money these sports generate and what the players get paid now.



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The Phillies traded away (early 80s) a virtual prospect 'Ryne Sandberg' to the Cubs in exchange for a box of donuts


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khawk wrote: The Blackhawks trading Phil Esposito to the bruins comes to mind.Trade cost the Hawks at least 1 Stanley Cup and probably more; deal still makes me sick to my stomach.



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beejmi wrote: The Phillies traded away (early 80s) a virtual prospect 'Ryne Sandberg' to the Cubs in exchange for a box of donuts


Ivan DeJesus is more than just a box of donuts



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kargol wrote: Not quite the same, but we (Birmingham City) had Michael Carrick on loan circa 1998 and he looked mediocre, yet played for England in the Euros within a decade and won the League five times.

We sold Jude Bellingham a couple of years ago and he's going to be an outright all-time great, but we all knew that anyway and we couldn't afford to keep him.

Sone Aluko for you guys, surely!



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BitterOldMan wrote: beejmi wrote: The Phillies traded away (early 80s) a virtual prospect 'Ryne Sandberg' to the Cubs in exchange for a box of donuts


Ivan DeJesus is more than just a box of donuts

I don't even know if I would have done Bowa straight up for DeJesus, but the Phillies threw Sandberg in for shits and giggles too.



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