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I bought the stock 4 weeks ago at 38.75 and sold it today for 51.88. I've never had an account. I just jumped on it when the rumours started circulating.

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I’m loving the hysterical fall-out from this.

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Yes. Already saw a headline about the 'fear' that large numbers of Irish twitter workers will resign in protest. If they do, fuck them. There are hundreds of thousands more that could fill those jobs in the morning.

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srossi wrote: I’m loving the hysterical fall-out from this.

I'd love to see him reinstate Trump's account for no other reason than to see the budding brownshirts collectively bleed from their eyeballs.

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This is a great day…

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KGB wrote: srossi wrote: I’m loving the hysterical fall-out from this.

I'd love to see him reinstate Trump's account for no other reason than to see the budding brownshirts collectively bleed from their eyeballs.

Trump already said he won’t go back, even though we all know he won’t be able to resist. 

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Married Jo wrote: This is a great day…Not agreeing or disagreeing but what makes you say that?

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srossi wrote: KGB wrote: srossi wrote: I’m loving the hysterical fall-out from this.

I'd love to see him reinstate Trump's account for no other reason than to see the budding brownshirts collectively bleed from their eyeballs.

Trump already said he won’t go back, even though we all know he won’t be able to resist. 


I would assume he has some sort of non-compete clause with his homebrew site, but you're right, he'd probably say "fuck it" and start posting on Twitter anyway.   

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Never had Twitter account & even avoided links. $44 billion sounds like an overpayment

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WongLee wrote: Married Jo wrote: This is a great day…Not agreeing or disagreeing but what makes you say that?
I'm enjoying seeing the self-righteous hypocrites cry and whine all over twitter...makes me smile...

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srossi wrote: I’m loving the hysterical fall-out from this.
It's great isn't it? 

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Married Jo wrote: srossi wrote: I’m loving the hysterical fall-out from this.
It's great isn't it?

It makes me sad for humanity.  Even on my wrestling Twitter I have to hear Mock Foley whine that he might have to leave, like he's a message board poster from OSW announcing his departure 15 years ago.  I rarely go on Twitter and it doesn't affect my life at all, and shouldn't really affect anyone else's either.

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My favorite is the people that have no issue with Bezos owning the Washington Post scream that THIS is unfair lol..

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Married Jo wrote: My favorite is the people that have no issue with Bezos owning the Washington Post scream that THIS is unfair lol..
The best part is people screaming that billionaires shouldn't control the content on social media platforms...um, who controls them now, including on Twitter?  One is opening up speech, the others are shutting it down.  And even if he wasn't, how would that be any different?

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Not coincidentally, Obama gave a speech last week in which he urged big tech to censor even more viewpoints.  He said he's pretty close to being a First Amendment absolutist, but...

He compared it to the FDA's ability to inspect meat packing plants.  You know, because reading someone's opinion that men can't get pregnant or that mRNA vaccines have demonstrable drawbacks is clearly as dangerous to one's health as contracting salmonella.  

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KGB wrote: Not coincidentally, Obama gave a speech last week in which he urged big tech to censor even more viewpoints.  He said he's pretty close to being a First Amendment absolutist, but...

He compared it to the FDA's ability to inspect meat packing plants.  You know, because reading someone's opinion that men can't get pregnant or that mRNA vaccines have demonstrable drawbacks is clearly as dangerous to one's health as contracting salmonella. 

Fuck the FDA too.

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srossi wrote: KGB wrote: Not coincidentally, Obama gave a speech last week in which he urged big tech to censor even more viewpoints.  He said he's pretty close to being a First Amendment absolutist, but...

He compared it to the FDA's ability to inspect meat packing plants.  You know, because reading someone's opinion that men can't get pregnant or that mRNA vaccines have demonstrable drawbacks is clearly as dangerous to one's health as contracting salmonella. 

Fuck the FDA too.


Ha.  I deal with the FDA and I can't really argue.  The Food Safety Modernization Act of a few years ago was a completely unnecessary bit of legislation that, naturally, expanded the FDA's size and gave them far too much authority over private business.  I'm not against setting basic standards for the production and labeling of items that are ingested into one's body, but, as always, the people in charge are never satisfied with the reasonable.  An FDA inspector can now walk into your plant unannounced and determine that you're making products under conditions that are "potentially" deleterious and have you shut down.  No evidence is required that you've harmed a single person, just that the inspector that day didn't like the looks of your operating conditions.  

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srossi wrote: Married Jo wrote: My favorite is the people that have no issue with Bezos owning the Washington Post scream that THIS is unfair lol..
The best part is people screaming that billionaires shouldn't control the content on social media platforms...um, who controls them now, including on Twitter?  One is opening up speech, the others are shutting it down.  And even if he wasn't, how would that be any different?
Exactly this! 

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This seems strange. Musk paid a premium price for this. It came to 1/5 his total wealth. Twitter is not a moneymaker in and of itself. What's his end game because on the surface it seems like at best a very mediocre business deal.

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WongLee wrote: This seems strange. Musk paid a premium price for this. It came to 1/5 his total wealth. Twitter is not a moneymaker in and of itself. What's his end game because on the surface it seems like at best a very mediocre business deal.

I dunno. Paying 44 billion so you can add and edit button seems like sound business to me.:tongue:


Ultimately I think it gives him a forum to say whatever he wants without fear of reprisal or his tweets being removed.


All I've ever needed to know about Twitter is the first four letters spell TWIT.  I have no use for it and only read a tweet if it's posted here or somewhere else I frequent.  This is just his latest plaything and if he wants to spend his money on it, then fill your boots. 

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WongLee wrote: This seems strange. Musk paid a premium price for this. It came to 1/5 his total wealth. Twitter is not a moneymaker in and of itself. What's his end game because on the surface it seems like at best a very mediocre business deal.
It's just a power play.  He has more money than he could ever spend in 50 lifetimes, but he gets off on pissing people off and can pretty much print money from his other businesses at will.  This gives him a seat at a different table.  The Twitter name is worth more than money.

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Yes, I imagine he does like Twitter and doesn't like what it's become. But mischief is a big part of it.

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It is funny to see videos on twitter if CNN coverage about how dangerous it could be if, for example, one party is silenced, or one party gets 'dialed up' while another is 'dialed back', as if this shit hasn't been happening since day 1.

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Jim_Irish wrote: It is funny to see videos on twitter if CNN coverage about how dangerous it could be if, for example, one party is silenced, or one party gets 'dialed up' while another is 'dialed back', as if this shit hasn't been happening since day 1.
Iirc, MBS slung up 1 of his billionaire cousins upside down by his ankles for a shakedown at a Ritz-Carlton, who I think was one of the biggest investors in Twitter

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I check my email here hourly awaiting Elon's offer to buy 'S & W'

If he offers $44 its a done deal. I'll take it.

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beejmi wrote: I check my email here hourly awaiting Elon's offer to buy 'S & W'

If he offers $44 its a done deal. I'll take it.
Maybe we can get him to bankroll Qaenos's Rocky Raymond project.

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Married Jo wrote: My favorite is the people that have no issue with Bezos owning the Washington Post scream that THIS is unfair lol..
I have an issue with both.  It’s two guys in a dick measuring contest where we could be the ones getting pissed on.   Sometimes I feel like we are being toyed with by the Duke brothers like Eddie Murphy and Dan Akroyd in “Trading Places”.  All this bullshit over a $1 bet. 

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beejmi wrote: I check my email here hourly awaiting Elon's offer to buy 'S & W'

If he offers $44 its a done deal. I'll take it.




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Musk is blocking people on twitter right now. So much for free speech. :)

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Spatulapup wrote: Musk is blocking people on twitter right now. So much for free speech. :)

Unless they are being suspended or banned, they are still free to speak, and he is free to not listen. 

I've had you on ignore for years and choose to look at what you have to say from time to time and that has never stopped you from posting. 

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I've had you on ignore for years  

This is a good call

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Franchise wrote: Spatulapup wrote: Musk is blocking people on twitter right now. So much for free speech. :)

Unless they are being suspended or banned, they are still free to speak, and he is free to not listen. 

I've had you on ignore for years and choose to look at what you have to say from time to time and that has never stopped you from posting. 


Keep me on ignore forever please. Then there will be no need to talk ever again. The fact you choose to check on me every now and then is hilarious. :)

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Spatulapup wrote: Franchise wrote: Spatulapup wrote: Musk is blocking people on twitter right now. So much for free speech. :)

Unless they are being suspended or banned, they are still free to speak, and he is free to not listen. 

I've had you on ignore for years and choose to look at what you have to say from time to time and that has never stopped you from posting. 


Keep me on ignore forever please. Then there will be no need to talk ever again. The fact you choose to check on me every now and then is hilarious. :)



You need checking on from time to time as evident by your “so much for free speech”comment. 

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I’m seeing a few people in indy media talk about how recently a size able chunk of banned people have been allowed back on the platform and some conservative leaning people have had their follower count spike in some cases as much as 65,000 new followers in a day.

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Spatulapup wrote: Musk is blocking people on twitter right now. So much for free speech. :)
Who?

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Spatulapup wrote: Musk is blocking people on twitter right now. So much for free speech. :)What are you talking about?

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Franchise wrote: Spatulapup wrote: Franchise wrote: Spatulapup wrote: Musk is blocking people on twitter right now. So much for free speech. :)

Unless they are being suspended or banned, they are still free to speak, and he is free to not listen. 

I've had you on ignore for years and choose to look at what you have to say from time to time and that has never stopped you from posting. 


Keep me on ignore forever please. Then there will be no need to talk ever again. The fact you choose to check on me every now and then is hilarious. :)



You need checking on from time to time as evident by your “so much for free speech”comment. 

Go back to ignoring.

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People are noticing they are losing a ton of followers all of a sudden. Thousands in some cases.

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Spatulapup wrote: People are noticing they are losing a ton of followers all of a sudden. Thousands in some cases.
This sounds suspiciously like a Trump quote: “Lots of people are saying…”  Seems like complete unsubstantiated nonsense, and I doubt Musk personally even has operational control yet. But on the off-chance this is even remotely accurate, Musk did say that one of his goals was to get rid of the bots, so that would probably account for the loss of followers, although again it’s doubtful that anything is really happening yet. But if tens of thousands of people were getting banned from Twitter in the past 2 days, I bet you’d know some of their names and be hearing a lot about it. Use some common sense. 

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srossi wrote: Spatulapup wrote: People are noticing they are losing a ton of followers all of a sudden. Thousands in some cases.
This sounds suspiciously like a Trump quote: “Lots of people are saying…”  Seems like complete unsubstantiated nonsense, and I doubt Musk personally even has operational control yet. But on the off-chance this is even remotely accurate, Musk did say that one of his goals was to get rid of the bots, so that would probably account for the loss of followers, although again it’s doubtful that anything is really happening yet. But if tens of thousands of people were getting banned from Twitter in the past 2 days, I bet you’d know some of their names and be hearing a lot about it. Use some common sense. 


It's not Musk it is being proposed that Twitter is reversing the algorithmic suppression. In the words of some "burning evidence before the take over" 

 

 

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Mark Hamill claims he lost 8000 followers in a couple hours. Then people in his thread said they lost a lot as well.

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https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/28/23046170/twitter-miscounted-daily-users-three-years-q1-2022-earnings

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Spatulapup wrote: People are noticing they are losing a ton of followers all of a sudden. Thousands in some cases.If that is true it is certainly not a new claim.

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Jim_Irish wrote: Spatulapup wrote: People are noticing they are losing a ton of followers all of a sudden. Thousands in some cases.If that is true it is certainly not a new claim.

The discussions i’ve seen regarding losses believe it is related to the removal of bots and sock puppet accounts. 

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Yes. Not uncommon to hear that, not new and nothing to do with Elon Musk.

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Although I would guess Elon Musk has an interest in improving bot detection.

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Roger Stone, who was permanently banned from Twitter in 2017, created a socko account yesterday and announced he was back and wanted to see if Musk's commitment to free speech was real. His account remained active for less than 8 hours before he was banned again. Musk is not pushing the buttons yet so all this talk is amusing.

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Hilarious Elon tweet


https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1520152887090892800?cxt=HHwWgMCy9eS_1ZgqAAAA

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Franchise wrote: Hilarious Elon tweet


https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1520152887090892800?cxt=HHwWgMCy9eS_1ZgqAAAA

It's frightening when the elected officials are saying this type of stuff that only the mental patients in their parties used to say.  This goes for both the left and the right.  AOC's tweet is completely unhinged and outside of the realm of reality, and she's supposed to represent the people.

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Looking less and less likely that Musk will ever buy Twitter.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61433724

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Kriss wrote: Looking less and less likely that Musk will ever buy Twitter.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61433724

But I thought he had already banned all the liberals!  I'm beginning to worry that Spatulapup might not be the authority I thought he was.

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The great elongate to go along with all the other less long gates

https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527525498460508160?cxt=HHwWgMC4kaCW7rIqAAAA


Elon commenting on RussiaGate

https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527719915666526208?cxt=HHwWgMC-menKxrMqAAAA

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I get where Musk is coming from. A Pope-following Catholic would have probably been considered "liberal" and voted Democrat in the 1950s and earlier, primarily due to our stance on social issues like welfare, immigration, civil rights etc. Now, thanks largely to abortion and LGBTQ+ and white demonization, we do not belong in the Democrat party and are considered right-wing extremists. Catholic teaching hasn't changed a bit, society has.  Good example is racism.  Catholics believe it's wrong to choose someone for a job just because of skin color.  In the 1950s, we thought that the policy of "blacks need not apply" was wrong so we were considered left-wing.  Today the "only blacks need apply" (e.g. the latest job at the Supreme Court) is also wrong, but we are now considered right-wing for thinking that.

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Qaenos wrote: I get where Musk is coming from. A Pope-following Catholic would have probably been considered "liberal" and voted Democrat in the 1950s and earlier, primarily due to our stance on social issues like welfare, immigration, civil rights etc. Now, thanks largely to abortion and LGBTQ+ and white demonization, we do not belong in the Democrat party and are considered right-wing extremists. Catholic teaching hasn't changed a bit, society has.  Good example is racism.  Catholics believe it's wrong to choose someone for a job just because of skin color.  In the 1950s, we thought that the policy of "blacks need not apply" was wrong so we were considered left-wing.  Today the "only blacks need apply" (e.g. the latest job at the Supreme Court) is also wrong, but we are now considered right-wing for thinking that.


It certainly seems like there has been an interesting reshuffling of the deck when it comes political parties. 



I think Elon is going to be the gateway for a lot of high profile people to stop towing the Dem party line. He is the heat magnet and will stay it especially if he does end up buying twitter.   

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Video of the twitter video call with Elon courtesy of project veritas via a leaker


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Franchise wrote: Video of the twitter video call with Elon courtesy of project veritas via a leaker


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FLvTcRrzy20

I don't even want to sit through meetings at my own job much less watch a 45-minute meeting for another job unrelated to my life.  Did he shoot laser beams out of his eyes? 

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srossi wrote: Franchise wrote: Video of the twitter video call with Elon courtesy of project veritas via a leaker


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FLvTcRrzy20

I don't even want to sit through meetings at my own job much less watch a 45-minute meeting for another job unrelated to my life.  Did he shoot laser beams out of his eyes? 

Not this time.

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srossi wrote: Franchise wrote: Video of the twitter video call with Elon courtesy of project veritas via a leaker https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FLvTcRrzy20 I don't even want to sit through meetings at my own job much less watch a 45-minute meeting for another job unrelated to my life.  Did he shoot laser beams out of his eyes?  He certainly is as big of a douchebag as Homelander is on “The Boys”.  

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Not really, but this reminds me that I have to start watching "The Boys" again this weekend.

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srossi wrote: gwlee7 wrote: srossi wrote: Franchise wrote: Video of the twitter video call with Elon courtesy of project veritas via a leaker https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FLvTcRrzy20 I don't even want to sit through meetings at my own job much less watch a 45-minute meeting for another job unrelated to my life.  Did he shoot laser beams out of his eyes?  He certainly is as big of a douchebag as Homelander is on “The Boys”. 
Not really, but this reminds me that I have to start watching "The Boys" again this weekend.

I've watched the first 3 or 4 (i forget how many were out bu last weekendl. It's very good, I think. Anyone who looked the first two seasons should like it. 
Elon Musk isn't anything like Homelander. 

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This shit is fucking nonsensical.

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This shit is fucking nonsensical.


Much like the pronoun circus, the intent isn't to soothe the brittle feelings of the freak cohort.  It's intended to frustrate and humiliate normal people like you and me.  

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Franchise wrote: SEC filing shows twitter in material breach  https://mobile.twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1545520694955581449?cxt=HHwWkoC9_cW45fIqAAAA Shows or claims?  I am not a Lawler.  

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gwlee7 wrote: Franchise wrote: SEC filing shows twitter in material breach  https://mobile.twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1545520694955581449?cxt=HHwWkoC9_cW45fIqAAAA Shows or claims?  I am not a Lawler.  

My name is not Jerry but it looks like Twitter failed to turn over the information requested for over a month and counting. 

To be precise i suppose i should have said it appears to or they are claiming it shows.

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Also, there's been a lot of fairly high profile accounts banned for views on covid, vaccines, gender and critical race theory. There will be some movement there too.

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Also, there's been a lot of fairly high profile accounts banned for views on covid, vaccines, gender and critical race theory. There will be some movement there too.

I think conservatives will be sorely disappointed at how little things change, whereas liberals will claim Armageddon even if nothing changes (like when "thousands" of accounts were banned within 12 hours of Musk "buying" Twitter the first time, even though he didn't actually have control of it until today).  I would assume the bans of certain high-profile people like Trump will be lifted though.

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To KJB: I think you have to be a glutton for punishment to go on twitter in the first place.

We'll see anyway, could be interesting.

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People being allowed to say whatever they want even if it's racist, encourages bad things. Some peoples idea of free speech are different.

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LOL  The horror!  I swear you can't be for real.  You and KGB have to be the same person fucking with us.

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Spatulapup wrote: People being allowed to say whatever they want even if it's racist, encourages bad things. Some peoples idea of free speech are different.
And if he doesn't allow people to say things that are racist then are we OK? 

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There is a difference between hate speech and free speech. Hate speech should not be allowed. If you take aim at Jewish people or others your account should be shut down. Will the same rules apply with a new owner. Would Musk have shut down Kanye?

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Spatulapup wrote: There is a difference between hate speech and free speech. Hate speech should not be allowed. If you take aim at Jewish people or others your account should be shut down. Will the same rules apply with a new owner. Would Musk have shut down Kanye?

Jewish people are above criticism?  Is that where we're at?  Please provide a list of all other groups who are off-limits.  

Kanye's depersoning should be concerning to everyone.  Is that really the route we want to go down?  You'll be completely kicked out of society for not having the proper opinions on the latest thing?  I don't give a shit about Kanye, but he happens to be the highest profile person yet who's been shut out of payment processors, credit cards, banks, etc.  And he won't be the last.  Losing your Twitter account for Wrongthink is one thing, but losing the ability to fully interact with today's society is something else, and it's becoming more and more frequent.   

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No there isn't.  Hard stop.  The ONLY free speech is speech that you don't agree with, otherwise it's not free speech.

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Elon announces content moderation council to oversee reinstatements.



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https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586059953311137792

The tweets in reply to this are thoughtful, measured, and intelligent. 

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No there isn't.  Hard stop.  The ONLY free speech is speech that you don't agree with, otherwise it's not free speech.

I am glad twitter, facebook and others disagree.

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Spatulapup wrote: srossi wrote: Spatulapup wrote: There is a difference between hate speech and free speech.
No there isn't.  Hard stop.  The ONLY free speech is speech that you don't agree with, otherwise it's not free speech.

I am glad twitter, facebook and others disagree.
I am glad you agree with whatever Facebook 'agrees' with. 
If you do not see the incredible bias of most of the media, including the big social media sites, in favour of the left then I'm certainly not going to try convince you.
Go back and look at how these companies treated ANYTHING mildly questioning ANYTHING about the source, severity and measures against Covid, the vaccines, etc.

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No there isn't.  Hard stop.  The ONLY free speech is speech that you don't agree with, otherwise it's not free speech.

I am glad twitter, facebook and others disagree.
I am glad you agree with whatever Facebook 'agrees' with. 
If you do not see the incredible bias of most of the media, including the big social media sites, in favour of the left then I'm certainly not going to try convince you.
Go back and look at how these companies treated ANYTHING mildly questioning ANYTHING about the source, severity and measures against Covid, the vaccines, etc.
Are you happy with how Twitter dealt with the Hunter Biden laptop story? 

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GM have 'temporarily' pulled advertising from twitter. There'll be more. And it'll get plenty of coverage, a lot more coverage than will be given to the same companies crawling back.

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Why exactly?  I don’t even understand how this purchase is controversial or why it’s become politicized, as if Musk is some far right loon, which couldn’t be further from the truth. 

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There's a vocal community, in twitter at least, who think he is a dangerous far right lunatic.

I don't know why. I don't remember anyone giving a shit who owned twitter before. The president of Ireland was blowing hot air about the danger of this purchase a few months ago. Same fella paid tremendous tribute to Fidel Castro when he died. Its insane.

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Jim_Irish wrote: Jim_Irish wrote: Spatulapup wrote: srossi wrote: Spatulapup wrote: There is a difference between hate speech and free speech.
No there isn't.  Hard stop.  The ONLY free speech is speech that you don't agree with, otherwise it's not free speech.

I am glad twitter, facebook and others disagree.
I am glad you agree with whatever Facebook 'agrees' with. 
If you do not see the incredible bias of most of the media, including the big social media sites, in favour of the left then I'm certainly not going to try convince you.
Go back and look at how these companies treated ANYTHING mildly questioning ANYTHING about the source, severity and measures against Covid, the vaccines, etc.
Are you happy with how Twitter dealt with the Hunter Biden laptop story?
Looks like you're arguing with yourself here. :tongue:

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I think he’s just another ultra rich narcissistic asshole who intends to continue treating the rest of the world as a game just like the Duke Brothers did in Trading Places. He and Bezos probably have a $1 bet with each other on who can destroy the world first.

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It is ridiculous. 

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gwlee7 wrote: I think he’s just another ultra rich narcissistic asshole who intends to continue treating the rest of the world as a game just like the Duke Brothers did in Trading Places. He and Bezos probably have a $1 bet with each other on who can destroy the world first.

Well Amazon is donating to some republican candidates this cycle after supposedly saying they wouldn't after Jan 6.

https://deadline.com/2022/10/amazon-resumes-january-6th-contributions-1235155122/

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The false claims are happening already, despite no changes to any rules, content it mederation policies.
I don't use twitter much (and am banned anyway) but have seen plenty in the last day about how Musk now allowing use of the 'N-word'. You were always allowed to use that word. 

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This is more social media as a whole but the old guard at twitter was involved according to these reporters.


https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/social-media-disinformation-dhs/


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$8/month to "verify" you are who you are.

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What a grift.

Seems cheap, and a no-brainer. It basically only applies to celebrities and people who financially benefit from Twitter. Why shouldn’t they pay?

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Yep.

The reaction from certain people to this whole purchase is tremendous.

Also, the Whitehouse account taking down it's own tweet is a thing of beauty.

Pfizer have suspended advertising on Twitter too. I guess they are afraid they might actually get fact checked now.

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srossi wrote: nyhack56 wrote: $8/month to "verify" you are who you are.

What a grift.

Seems cheap, and a no-brainer. It basically only applies to celebrities and people who financially benefit from Twitter. Why shouldn’t they pay?

Why should they have to?  And if they don't,  just going to lead to more troll/bot accounts that old Elon was trying to get rid of.

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1. They don't 'have to' if they don't want to.

2. If you mean bot accounts, that's a seperate issue. And I think it's an issue that Elon Musk will heavily focus on and I'll bet he will improve things.

If you mean troll accounts I didn't hear him mentioning these, and I don't know if it's even clearly defined as to what a troll account even is.


I see certain quarters complaining that followers are 'disappearing' overnight and so on. This is nothing new and has always happened. As Srossi said, when the news broke months ago that Musk was trying to buy twitter lots of people immediately started noticing how Musk was fucking things up, even though he hadn't bought or.

As I thought they are cutting back big time on staff, including here in Ireland.

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What a grift.

Seems cheap, and a no-brainer. It basically only applies to celebrities and people who financially benefit from Twitter. Why shouldn’t they pay?

Why should they have to?  And if they don't,  just going to lead to more troll/bot accounts that old Elon was trying to get rid of.

They don't have to.  Don't use Twitter and take advantage of your thousands or millions of followers that the platform has allowed you to cultivate then.

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srossi wrote: nyhack56 wrote: srossi wrote: nyhack56 wrote: $8/month to "verify" you are who you are.

What a grift.

Seems cheap, and a no-brainer. It basically only applies to celebrities and people who financially benefit from Twitter. Why shouldn’t they pay?

Why should they have to?  And if they don't,  just going to lead to more troll/bot accounts that old Elon was trying to get rid of.

They don't have to.  Don't use Twitter and take advantage of your thousands or millions of followers that the platform has allowed you to cultivate then.
Exactly right. 

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After the use of the N word went up 500% after Musk took over Musk has talked with the President and CEO Of the NAACP Derrick Johnson and promised him hate speech/racism won't be tolerated. We'll see if that's true.

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I doubt that statistic is even remotely true, like all those thousands of accounts he banned 6 months ago when he wasn't even in charge.  Either way, I think he should make people who want to use the N word pay $8 per usage. 

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If anything, I think they will improve the verification process, especially if there's a financial incentive to do so.  Right now, some legit celebrities (albeit minor ones) complain that they have failed the verification process 4 or 5 times for seemingly no reason.  I would not expect that to continue under Musk.

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I doubt that statistic is even remotely true, like all those thousands of accounts he banned 6 months ago when he wasn't even in charge.  Either way, I think he should make people who want to use the N word pay $8 per usage. 
I can believe it. It means NOTHING, as the word was already allowed before he took over. I can believe that various groups set out to do this just so it would look (to people who haven't a clue) that racists started joining twitter immediately because Elon Musk took over. 

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If anything, I think they will improve the verification process, especially if there's a financial incentive to do so.  Right now, some legit celebrities (albeit minor ones) complain that they have failed the verification process 4 or 5 times for seemingly no reason.  I would not expect that to continue under Musk.
Not would I. 
Musk is the personification of evil to some people. I don't understand it. And a lot of those same people seem to either tolerate or actually like Bill Gates, a former richest man in the world who is far more of a supervillain type as far as I can see. 

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Principal_Raditch wrote: Are there many Billionaire's currently who aren't cunts?
Everyone who’s better off than you is a cunt when you’re a jealous loser, and that narrative is the only one that exists on social media. 

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The media here over the past week or so...

1. Stripe, Irish founded payments company, sends memo advising 14% of staff will be laid off. Reported for approximately 1 day in the news, with no criticism.

2. Twitter announces 50% lay offs. Employees receive memos. This is deemed 'unacceptable' by our senior politicians and is heavily criticised in all news outlets for days on end, with many opinion pieces about how awful it is for Elon Musk to own twitter and how it is the end of Twitter.

3. Four of the oldest companies in Germany close due to insolvency, directly caused by huge increases in energy costs and raw material costs. More jobs lost than the two companies above combined. Not a peep in any major news outlet here.

It doesn't surprise me and it should not annoy me. But it does.

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So Musk tries to fix the disinformation problem by saying that he will ban anyone pretending to be someone else. Exactly what liberals always wanted. They respond by trolling him and pretending to be Musk, so he bans them, including "comedian" (barely) Kathy Griffin. He even specified that clearly labeled parody accounts were fine, something that's been protected by the 1st Amendment since almost Day One.  Now there's an uproar. Make 2022 make sense. Liberals don't even exist anymore, they're just contrarians.

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Whatever he does or doesn't do, or is perceived to have done or not done, these idiots will attack Musk and Twitter.

The most laughable thing I've seen in a while is Mastodon being a legitimate rival to Twitter. Nobody heard of it before this week, it's relatively extremely NOT user friendly. Also, this is basically the same thing the Left mocked others for doing when Trump and others were banned.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: Are there many Billionaire's currently who aren't cunts?That's gonna be me after tonight's Powerball muthafucka. Be nice or first thing I'll do is buy your hospital and make the Commissioner of the Kansas City PD your direct boss.

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Jim_Irish wrote:  Nobody heard of it before this week, it's relatively extremely NOT user friendly.
You've used it I take it?

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Does anyone believe he will try and fix the disinformation problem? Not judging by his first week. He contributed to it.

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Spatulapup wrote: Does anyone believe he will try and fix the disinformation problem? Not judging by his first week. He contributed to it.Yes. 

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Spatulapup wrote: Does anyone believe he will try and fix the disinformation problem? Not judging by his first week. He contributed to it.
Yes. He already fixed Kathy Griffin for posing as someone she was not and for spreading disinformation.
One down, 80 Billion to go!

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brodiescomics wrote: Spatulapup wrote: Does anyone believe he will try and fix the disinformation problem? Not judging by his first week. He contributed to it.
Yes. He already fixed Kathy Griffin for posing as someone she was not and for spreading disinformation.
One down, 80 Billion to go!
Twitter also fact checked or added context to a post from the White House which was, at best, very misleading. The White House subsequently removed it and said that it was 'unfinished' when they posted it. Which is a great excuse. 
This was not happening before Elon Musk took over. 

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Spatulapup wrote: Does anyone believe he will try and fix the disinformation problem? Not judging by his first week. He contributed to it.
OK, explain how he "contributed to it" when he's already clearly working to fix it.  I'll bite.   

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srossi wrote: Spatulapup wrote: Does anyone believe he will try and fix the disinformation problem? Not judging by his first week. He contributed to it.
OK, explain how he "contributed to it" when he's already clearly working to fix it.  I'll bite.   
It took a lot for me not to bite this time. ☺ 

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Jim_Irish wrote: srossi wrote: Spatulapup wrote: Does anyone believe he will try and fix the disinformation problem? Not judging by his first week. He contributed to it.
OK, explain how he "contributed to it" when he's already clearly working to fix it.  I'll bite.   
It took a lot for me not to bite this time. ☺

I'm guessing the answer will be that he's going to lift Trump's ban so he can spread disinformation, even though he hasn't even actually done that yet.  Just a guess, but "Trump" is involved in every single one of his posts.

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Or charging for blue ticks will increase disinformation and misinformation. .

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Jim_Irish wrote: Or charging for blue ticks will increase disinformation and misinformation. .
When it does the opposite.

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Yep. The reaction to this Kathy Griffin thing is pathetic.

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Read somewhere that the verification process before was more or less based on employees whims. Stories of some twitter employees denying verifications, but then reaching out on their own and selling them for upwards of $15,000

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Keeping it classy

https://www.newsweek.com/kathy-griffin-slammed-using-dead-mother-twitter-after-suspension-elon-musk-1757351?amp=1

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Elon has been an interesting political issue. All my Republican friends on the Facebooks hated him and his electric cars.


"He is using 1000 pound batteries and polluting with all the cobalt while claiming to be green. We need to stick to good old clean oil and start drilling in every forest, lake, and neighborhood!!!1!


What, he gonna buy Twitter and let Trump back on? Elon has always been my hero."



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