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 Posted: Thu Apr 28th, 2022 12:14 pm
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You have to say that the cloud people aren't very troubled with hiding their intentions.  Just a few days after Obama gave a speech in which he hinted that America needs to do something about all that icky misinformation and disinformation that some of you have the temerity to believe, DHS has made it official.  They're creating a "Disinformation Governance Board".  You don't have to look into the details, it's as disgusting and tyrannical as the name suggests.  Special shout out to the Bushie neo-cons who gave us the abomination of the DHS.  Heckuva job, guys!

But they've only provided the tools, it's the left that's going to use them full-throttle.  The meltdown over Musk's Twitter purchase is probably the catalyst for making this public now.  The left has had a taste of political censorship and they really, really like it.  If a private actor won't play along, then they'll find other ways to control the narrative.

The first leader of the agency will be the rabidly partisan Nina Jankowicz.  In 2020 she said, "Back on the "laptop from hell," apparently- Biden notes 50 former natsec officials and 5 former CIA heads that believe the laptop is a Russian influence op.  Trump says "Russia, Russia, Russia.""  So we can assume she would have been all on board with censoring and labeling as disinformation the completely factual revelations contained within Hunter Biden's lap top.  She's also tweeted this, "Last week I told @NPRMichel: I shudder to think about if free speech absolutists were taking over more platforms, what that would look like for the marginalized communities... which are already shouldering... disproportionate amounts of this abuse."  More crying out in pain as she strikes us.

So, thanks to a deeply crooked election we now have a ministry of truth in this country.  But hey, no more 'mean tweets' by Trump, right?  I guess the tradeoff was worth it. 



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Rand Paul is a cool dude


https://mobile.twitter.com/SKMorefield/status/1522415749431799808



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Franchise wrote: Rand Paul is a cool dude


https://mobile.twitter.com/SKMorefield/status/1522415749431799808

When he wants to, he says all the right things exactly how I would say it. He wants to about 55% of the time. 



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I cannot stand Rand Paul, BUT he nailed it in this one. Stupid department. The US govt. regulating Disinformation is the most laughable and scary thought I have heard in quite awhile. We sometimes overuse the comparability of our country to an Orwellian state to exaggerate an opinion. There is no exaggeration with this issue.

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Disgusting.

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The only problem I have with the original post is the assertion that the Left are the ones trying to surpress Free Speech.

Then again KGB, while being of obvious above average intelligence and being educmicated, is a low-life troll who post things such as this just to trigger people and "own the Libs".

As far as Rand Paul, sometimes he can make a valid point; I always attribue it to the "Blind Pig" theory. Most of what he says is pure shite, designed to enrich those at the top of the food chain.

I guess you can congratulate yourself, as I've responded; but it's not because of my political affiliation. Sometimes you just need to respond because it's the correct thing to do.



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Most of the mainstream media is very left leaning. Including Twitter.

I don't give a fuck who owns Twitter but the outrage about Elon Musk taking over is ridiculous.

The hypocrisy over 'misinformation' and 'disinformation' is ridiculous. See: Covid 19 origins, Hunter Biden, Joe Rogan, mask efficacy, vaccine efficacy, vaccine mandates etc.

I'm not going to say The Right wouldn't do the same but the last few years of free speech threat is largely Left driven.

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Jim_Irish wrote: Most of the mainstream media is very left leaning. Including Twitter.

I don't give a fuck who owns Twitter but the outrage about Elon Musk taking over is ridiculous.

The hypocrisy over 'misinformation' and 'disinformation' is ridiculous. See: Covid 19 origins, Hunter Biden, Joe Rogan, mask efficacy, vaccine efficacy, vaccine mandates etc.

I'm not going to say The Right wouldn't do the same but the last few years of free speech threat is largely Left driven.


You are full of shit. 

The Right has the same dirty hands this year, last year, and the years before. Both parties have drumming up this shit.  Look at the Trumpers on social media. You playing the victim is not going to work.   You are part of the problem. 

I am glad you are so worried about the U.S. issues 

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Papa Voo wrote: Jim_Irish wrote: Most of the mainstream media is very left leaning. Including Twitter.

I don't give a fuck who owns Twitter but the outrage about Elon Musk taking over is ridiculous.

The hypocrisy over 'misinformation' and 'disinformation' is ridiculous. See: Covid 19 origins, Hunter Biden, Joe Rogan, mask efficacy, vaccine efficacy, vaccine mandates etc.

I'm not going to say The Right wouldn't do the same but the last few years of free speech threat is largely Left driven.


You are full of shit. 

The Right has the same dirty hands this year, last year, and the years before. Both parties have drumming up this shit.  Look at the Trumpers on social media. You playing the victim is not going to work.   You are part of the problem. 

I am glad you are so worried about the U.S. issues 



The biggest difference being that the cathedral controls establishment media & establishment media is all over print (digital), television & YouTube and rarely gets called out for or admits to incorrect reporting. Your typical Trump supporter is some random person with little to no reach. Granted places like the Daily Wire & Timcast are picking up steam but OAN & Newsmax aren't looked upon fondly.   



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Franchise wrote: Papa Voo wrote: Jim_Irish wrote: Most of the mainstream media is very left leaning. Including Twitter.

I don't give a fuck who owns Twitter but the outrage about Elon Musk taking over is ridiculous.

The hypocrisy over 'misinformation' and 'disinformation' is ridiculous. See: Covid 19 origins, Hunter Biden, Joe Rogan, mask efficacy, vaccine efficacy, vaccine mandates etc.

I'm not going to say The Right wouldn't do the same but the last few years of free speech threat is largely Left driven.


You are full of shit. 

The Right has the same dirty hands this year, last year, and the years before. Both parties have drumming up this shit.  Look at the Trumpers on social media. You playing the victim is not going to work.   You are part of the problem. 

I am glad you are so worried about the U.S. issues 



The biggest difference being that the cathedral controls establishment media & establishment media is all over print (digital), television & YouTube and rarely gets called out for or admits to incorrect reporting. Your typical Trump supporter is some random person with little to no reach. Granted places like the Daily Wire & Timcast are picking up steam but OAN & Newsmax aren't looked upon fondly.   


I see the shit all over the place on social media and in today’s America that is taken as the gospel over media establishments so that argument is flawed.  People no longer seek out liberal, conservative or independent news information.  The Age of Fake News is upon us from both sides and is available in many different options and accesses.  
I am tired of hearing that one side or the other are the ones creating the new boogeyman. There is no glistening stream of honest and blessed accurate information just because of the world we live in, but to say that one side is the bad dog and the other side is the good dog is probably the most compromised and inaccurate information out there.  It is also probably one of the most damaging statements that keeps adding fuel to this huge bonfire.
Poor Trump got picked on. So the fuck what? I see Biden getting dogged daily about his mental state with youtube videos some which were flagrantly edited. I see stories about Kamala deep throating her way to the top in news-like stories.  Both sides ramp up this shit, but then people get on any social media or even a small message board like this and play the victim side.  

There are pro-Trump opinions and messaging all over the place. That is like me saying that there is are Biden supporters out there who want to defend him but they have no access to do so. I see this same shit day after day from BOTH sides and I do nit support, either one. But, this playing the victim is beyond pathetic.  I could care less what commie businesses Ivanka invested in and I am tired if hearing about Hunter’s laptop.   A bunch of us do not give a fuck and are tired of hearing the whining. 


Get over it. 



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Is it anyone's assertion that the incestuous cabal of government, corporations, education, media, and tech aren't in lock step and that they don't all promote a leftist, post-modernist, cultural Marxist point of view?  No one's saying that a Trumpite can't throw up a meme on Twitter or a video on Youtube, but the gatekeepers all reside on the left.  That said meme will remain visible is entirely up to the left.  Remember the guy who did the video, using WWE footage, of "CNN" getting squashed by Trump?  It was banned and the man who made it was doxxed because the people that run CNN and the people that run Big Tech all come from the same pool of cloud people.  You will never, ever see an anti-Trump meme or story get the same treatment.   

The bottom line is the left never needs permission to propagate its causes; the right does.  



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BitterOldMan wrote: The only problem I have with the original post is the assertion that the Left are the ones trying to surpress Free Speech.

Then again KGB, while being of obvious above average intelligence and being educmicated, is a low-life troll who post things such as this just to trigger people and "own the Libs".

As far as Rand Paul, sometimes he can make a valid point; I always attribue it to the "Blind Pig" theory. Most of what he says is pure shite, designed to enrich those at the top of the food chain.

I guess you can congratulate yourself, as I've responded; but it's not because of my political affiliation. Sometimes you just need to respond because it's the correct thing to do.


Help a low-life out, please tell me which major stories the right has successfully suppressed.  What institution does the right control that allowed them to do so?  

I'd love to "own the cons" but they do such a marvelous job of doing it to themselves that it's hardly worth the effort.  For example, I've had plenty of normie-cons tell me recently that "after the mid-terms, things are going to change!"  It's so cute that they believe that.  We all know that the next Congress, no matter how "red", will sit on its hands and quietly push for more open borders, more favors for their corporate buddies, more cross dressers and fags in the schools, more foreign interventions and forever wars.  It's so banal and predictable.  What's the point in "owning" these people?  



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Papa Voo wrote: Franchise wrote: Papa Voo wrote: Jim_Irish wrote: Most of the mainstream media is very left leaning. Including Twitter.

I don't give a fuck who owns Twitter but the outrage about Elon Musk taking over is ridiculous.

The hypocrisy over 'misinformation' and 'disinformation' is ridiculous. See: Covid 19 origins, Hunter Biden, Joe Rogan, mask efficacy, vaccine efficacy, vaccine mandates etc.

I'm not going to say The Right wouldn't do the same but the last few years of free speech threat is largely Left driven.


You are full of shit. 

The Right has the same dirty hands this year, last year, and the years before. Both parties have drumming up this shit.  Look at the Trumpers on social media. You playing the victim is not going to work.   You are part of the problem. 

I am glad you are so worried about the U.S. issues 



The biggest difference being that the cathedral controls establishment media & establishment media is all over print (digital), television & YouTube and rarely gets called out for or admits to incorrect reporting. Your typical Trump supporter is some random person with little to no reach. Granted places like the Daily Wire & Timcast are picking up steam but OAN & Newsmax aren't looked upon fondly.   


I see the shit all over the place on social media and in today’s America that is taken as the gospel over media establishments so that argument is flawed.  People no longer seek out liberal, conservative or independent news information.  The Age of Fake News is upon us from both sides and is available in many different options and accesses.  
I am tired of hearing that one side or the other are the ones creating the new boogeyman. There is no glistening stream of honest and blessed accurate information just because of the world we live in, but to say that one side is the bad dog and the other side is the good dog is probably the most compromised and inaccurate information out there.  It is also probably one of the most damaging statements that keeps adding fuel to this huge bonfire.
Poor Trump got picked on. So the fuck what? I see Biden getting dogged daily about his mental state with youtube videos some which were flagrantly edited. I see stories about Kamala deep throating her way to the top in news-like stories.  Both sides ramp up this shit, but then people get on any social media or even a small message board like this and play the victim side.  

There are pro-Trump opinions and messaging all over the place. That is like me saying that there is are Biden supporters out there who want to defend him but they have no access to do so. I see this same shit day after day from BOTH sides and I do nit support, either one. But, this playing the victim is beyond pathetic.  I could care less what commie businesses Ivanka invested in and I am tired if hearing about Hunter’s laptop.   A bunch of us do not give a fuck and are tired of hearing the whining. 


Get over it.



There never was a glistening stream of honest information. 

Neither side is going to stop; it's where the donation money is & politics has become a team sport & a lot of the fans are out for figurative blood. 

I see something like this disinformation governance board being the future of the establishment news empire without the facade of the news segment.  

People like Musk, Rogan, Brand & Maher are the wild cards because they have a substantial reach and don't have to conform to any one set of ideas to live in luxury. 

Being the victim is an identity even for some in the press    



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While we are being purposefully being distracted by trying to “own each other” or fight culture wars, the ultra wealthy are making sure that they extract as much wealth for themselves as they can. They want us worrying about things that really shouldn’t matter while they fleece the shit out of us all.



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gwlee7 wrote: While we are being purposefully being distracted by trying to “own each other” or fight culture wars, the ultra wealthy are making sure that they extract as much wealth for themselves as they can. They want us worrying about things that really shouldn’t matter while they fleece the shit out of us all.


They will never see that. They are too busy playing dick-swinging party politics and sirening  the call that they were “oppressed and offended” (the Left) and “cheated and victims of unfair practices” (The Right).  They just want to hear themselves bitch and think they are going to change the world while they are being played by the wealthy and the multi-national corporations.  

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