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 Posted: Thu May 12th, 2022 08:51 pm
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Disney is currently in the headlines over Florida's "Don't Say Gay" bill. Some Disney employees believe that the company should take a stand. Other employees feel that the company should not be speaking on their behalf.

Some companies cater their marketing and promotion to show their support for certain issues. For example, Oreo will be using a new packaging design to show the company's support of LGBTQIA+ Pride. Some customers are in favor of the packaging and support. Other people are posting comments such as "Go woke, Go broke" and vow to boycott Oreos and remove them from their grocery shopping lists.

Black Lives Matter was predominantly featured during sporting events - especially when sports returned to action after being halted during the COVID pandemic. Commentators often spread messages about social inequality and racial injustice during the sports broadcasts. Some people were glad that the message was being spread. Others were unhappy that the social issue was invading their sports viewing.

Do you feel that companies should take stances on social/political issues?

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 Posted: Thu May 12th, 2022 09:21 pm
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No, but if you need the job, what can you do ? they tell you how to think, they tell you what to think.

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They can do what they want and people can either buy their shit or not. But Disney is a prime example of the hypocrisy. All over the LGBTQI+WHATEVER, but in bed with China, a country that has millions of people in literal slavery.

Each of these 'political' stances from companies is obviously very calculated. Hell, anyone who DIDN'T expressly state their support for BLM was in danger of being attacked a couple of years ago.

Different to the above but a small example of political stuff in the office:
About 4 or 5 years back we had a referendum on abortion here. We received an email from a manager in work asking/telling people that they should not bring in or wear any political stuff to work. Which is fair enough. However the same guy had rainbow flags and #equal signs up in his own office (for anyone passing to see) a few years before that when we had the referendum on gay marriage.

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Another example :all companies (as far as I can see) are being very careful to include climate change rhetoric in their literature, mission statements, corporate values, etc. Regardless of whether the company can make any difference or wants to make any difference. But to exclude it now is seen as almost guilty by ommission.

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Jim_Irish wrote: Another example :all companies (as far as I can see) are being very careful to include climate change rhetoric in their literature, mission statements, corporate values, etc. Regardless of whether the company can make any difference or wants to make any difference. But to exclude it now is seen as almost guilty by ommission.

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Remember when it was assumed that corporations represented the WASPY elite, the wealthy conservatives?  And yet there's not a single corporation worth its salt that would champion a cause that's even mildly conservative.  No company would take a public stance that gun rights are essential for liberty, that abortions should be curtailed, that glorifying sexual degeneracy undermines healthy societies, that young men are in desperate need of masculine leadership.  None of those are considered controversial opinions in large swaths of the country.  Instead, they're all comfortable pushing degeneracy, demographic replacement, and misandry.  

And yet, the normie-con clings to his cope, "Go woke, go broke."  Really?  What company has gone broke while pandering to the left?  Do I think companies should take a stance on issues?  I don't really have an opinion one way or another, but I did grow up when it was exceedingly rare and I think it was a much more pleasant world.   



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KGB wrote: Remember when it was assumed that corporations represented the WASPY elite, the wealthy conservatives?  And yet there's not a single corporation worth its salt that would champion a cause that's even mildly conservative.  No company would take a public stance that gun rights are essential for liberty, that abortions should be curtailed, that glorifying sexual degeneracy undermines healthy societies, that young men are in desperate need of masculine leadership.  None of those are considered controversial opinions in large swaths of the country.  Instead, they're all comfortable pushing degeneracy, demographic replacement, and misandry.  

And yet, the normie-con clings to his cope, "Go woke, go broke."  Really?  What company has gone broke while pandering to the left?  Do I think companies should take a stance on issues?  I don't really have an opinion one way or another, but I did grow up when it was exceedingly rare and I think it was a much more pleasant world.   


This is why it is important to fight the culture war; American culture has been pulled in one direction for a long time and due to that the cultural enforcement and acceptance only goes in one direction. Your normal conservative in America likely has no idea what companies hate their ideas and values. 

It's been said by many people, but politics is downstream from culture 



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Franchise wrote: KGB wrote: Remember when it was assumed that corporations represented the WASPY elite, the wealthy conservatives?  And yet there's not a single corporation worth its salt that would champion a cause that's even mildly conservative.  No company would take a public stance that gun rights are essential for liberty, that abortions should be curtailed, that glorifying sexual degeneracy undermines healthy societies, that young men are in desperate need of masculine leadership.  None of those are considered controversial opinions in large swaths of the country.  Instead, they're all comfortable pushing degeneracy, demographic replacement, and misandry.  

And yet, the normie-con clings to his cope, "Go woke, go broke."  Really?  What company has gone broke while pandering to the left?  Do I think companies should take a stance on issues?  I don't really have an opinion one way or another, but I did grow up when it was exceedingly rare and I think it was a much more pleasant world.   


This is why it is important to fight the culture war; American culture has been pulled in one direction for a long time and due to that the cultural enforcement and acceptance only goes in one direction. Your normal conservative in America likely has no idea what companies hate their ideas and values. 

It's been said by many people, but politics is downstream from culture 


And culture is downstream from biology, but your normie-cons will trip over themselves to validate the progressive worldview by yelling "I don't see color!" or "Dems are the real racists!" or "I love Candace Owens, so I can't be a bad guy."  You have to laugh.   



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I answered "it depends". Many companies in my industry stopped shipping to Russia, recently.



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All companies and products do a quiet bow to "minorities" with literally every commercial they produce. So even if they don't choose to take a hard stance on a social issue, they sure will show everyone how diverse they are!


If you go by the commercials, every couple in North America is mixed race, women are all powerful company owners (especially ethnic ones), All non mixed couples are black, who live in giant houses with perfect children and are exceedingly affluent. Most of the white women in mixed couples are redheads (a minority within an oppressed group! oh my stars), and White men are only allowed to be shown cleaning these wonderfully diverse couples and affluent people's houses, selling them their burgers, or servicing their car....wait, the last commercial I saw about an auto shop was run by women who employed several asians, in an inclusive and welcoming manner, of course.

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White men are generally depicted as inept, hen pecked goofballs.  They also comprise 100% of society's criminals.  Meanwhile, a good quarter of the world is lovingly and monogamously gay.

And yes, as khawk says, these commercials depict the companies' stance on social issues very powerfully.



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Poor, down trodden American white people. So used to getting their way and being the sole focus of everything on TV and other forms of media, that any shift in focus is perceived as persecution. In my opinion, the main fear white Conservatives have and, especially white conservative males, is that they are gonna end being treated the same way they have treated everyone else in the country since its inception. They don’t want to have their land taken away and be forced to live on reservations, to be enslaved, or any other thing that forces them to realize that at the end of the day, they only have it made because they had better weapons and it had nothing to do with their values or inherent exceptionalism.



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gwlee7 wrote: Poor, down trodden American white people. So used to getting their way and being the sole focus of everything on TV and other forms of media, that any shift in focus is perceived as persecution. In my opinion, the main fear white Conservatives have and, especially white conservative males, is that they are gonna end being treated the same way they have treated everyone else in the country since its inception. They don’t want to have their land taken away and be forced to live on reservations, to be enslaved, or any other thing that forces them to realize that at the end of the day, they only have it made because they had better weapons and it had nothing to do with their values or inherent exceptionalism.

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gwlee7 wrote: Poor, down trodden American white people. So used to getting their way and being the sole focus of everything on TV and other forms of media, that any shift in focus is perceived as persecution. In my opinion, the main fear white Conservatives have and, especially white conservative males, is that they are gonna end being treated the same way they have treated everyone else in the country since its inception. They don’t want to have their land taken away and be forced to live on reservations, to be enslaved, or any other thing that forces them to realize that at the end of the day, they only have it made because they had better weapons and it had nothing to do with their values or inherent exceptionalism.
Sounds like these racist mass shooters. Heaven help us if they cast a black actor to play James Bond . There will be rioting in the streets.;)

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"gun rights are essential for liberty, that abortions should be curtailed, that glorifying sexual degeneracy undermines healthy societies, that young men are in desperate need of masculine leadership. None of those are considered controversial opinions in large swaths of the country"

Right....large empty swaths of the country

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